I cant find her mother - Lincolnshire

[clairenorman39]

Hmm I will have to dig a bit deeper then.
Thanks for your help.

[anniehowell]

FOUND IN 1861 CENSUS
DOROTHY ROBINSON BORN 1846 IN GAINSBOROUGH LINCOLNSHIRE IN
HOUSE OF REFUGE
WAKEFIELD
YORKSHIRE
ANY GOOD!!

[clairenorman39]

Annie,
I have the records for her admittance into the house of refuge. She stole a shawl and had two weeks in prison and then 3-5years in the reformatory/house of refuge.
Claire

[anniehowell]

Have you got her birth certificate because cannot find birth for Dorothy.Wondering if she took her mothers maiden name , do you know what it was.Starting to annoy me as well that I can't find anything.It's a mystery!!!!!

[Valda]

Annie

that is why I wrote about and gave the

Hostired  Dorothy    Gainsboro  14 321

birth reference as a possible reference because there was no Dorothy Robinson birth registration in Gainsborough (or Lincolnshire). However this Dorothy seems unlikely because I cannot see a subsequent marriage with Dorothy's known father, and fathers don't ususally take on their illegitimate children without a marriage involved somewhere. Illegitimate children tend to stay within their mother's family when a marriage doesn't occur. I also doubt this Dorothy's birth certificate would prove anything because even if she was born illegitimately (and at this point there is no evidence of that) her father would probably not be named on the certificate.

The interest in this Dorothy is she appears on the 1851 census and is the right age and has the right birthplace. She disappears after this census as Dorothy Robinson appears on the 1861 census. That is what the previous messages on the thread have all been about - trying to find out who "Dorothy's Robinson's" mother was and where she was on the 1851 census.

Claire, if she has not done so already, will probably need to check the Gainsborough baptisms (which don't seem to be on the IGI for this date) to see if either Dorothy appears. If both appear they cannot be the same person. Either way she should get a mother's first name if she finds a baptism and might be able to go on from there.

Regards

Valda

[Geoff E]

As I said the image shows that Hostired is actually HOSTHEAD.  I see there was a HOSTHEAD girl married before 1851.

The head of the HOSTHEAD family seems to have been William - he and Helen/Ellen had several kids baptised at Gainsborough - two with middle name Pepple/Popple.

I haven't found the family in 1841, just a couple of HOSTEAD servant girls in Gainsborough; also William (11) and Henry (7) HURSTHEAD with a HEMSWORTH family on Willoughby St.

[katherinem]

There is a marriage registration for a Frederick George Robinson in the registration dist of Doncaster, XXII, 75 for the qtr Jul-Sep 1849.

I realise that this may or may not be your Frederick, but I thought it was worth posting!  On FreeBMD the only other person listed on the same details is a Sarah Ann Berry.

I too have tried to find the Hosthead (and variants) on the 1841 census, to see if there was another daughter, that may have given birth to Dorothy, but to no avail.  There is the possibility that Dorothy is the illegitimate daughter of Jane Popple Hosthead, wife of William Oxley on the 1851 census.  But as Valda has said this Dorothy seems to disappear after 1851.

Best of luck, Kath

[anniehowell]

The thing is ,I have a Albert Lowis in all census up to 1891, then he appears as Albert Western in1891 but in 1901 he is back to Albert Lowis.His mother was unmarried when she had him and later married Albert Western but he must of taken on Westerns name and not been addopted,hense married as Lowis.It took me a while to work out,sorry I couldn't help you.
Happy hunting!!!!
Annie

[Valda]

For what it is worth these seem the children baptised to William amd Ellen at Gainsborough

JANE POPPLE HOSTHEAD
Christening: 21 JAN 1827 Gainsborough, Lincoln
SUSANNA HUSTED
Christening: 12 NOV 1828 Gainsborough, Lincoln
WILLIAM HOSTHEAD
Christening: 03 JUL 1830 Gainsborough, Lincoln
HENRY HAWSTED
Christening: 30 JAN 1835 Gainsborough, Lincoln

WILLIAM HOSTHEAD  
HELEN PHILLIPSON  
Marriage:  12 NOV 1821   Gainsborough, Lincoln
 
You can have Ostead as a variant of the surname as well!
 
Susanna is the daughter who married in 1849 (It is true there is a Susannah Robinson born Gainsborough of the right age married to a Thomas Robinson on the 1851 census, but he was born Derbyshire and the couple are still together on the 1861 census).
Jane Popple Hosthead married in 1851.
On FreeBMD there is also a John Hosthead who married in Gainsborough registration district in 1838 (possibly baptism 1818 as Hoston).

You can see here the present coverage FreeBMD has of the civil registration through FreeBMD coverage charts

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progress.shtml

Regards

Valda