I cant find her mother - Lincolnshire

[clairenorman39]

Thank you all of you for trying your best to help. I have just sat and read your replies and am overwhelmed at the responses.
How well you have all done in trying to break the puzzle down into pieces and explore each of them.
I havent found out anything else as yet but have taken steps enquiring about ordering the film for Gainsborough.
I think it may be worth ordering the marriage cert for Fred and Sarah Berry. But does this mean that Ssarah was her mother? Not necessarily - this could be Freds second marriage or Dorothys mother could have been Frances Hosthead or someone else - anything is possible.
I will go now and check all the dates of birth she gives and ages on documents etc.
Many thanks
Claire


checked census dates and they are as follows
1851 Dot missing
1861 -1846
1871 -1846
1881 -1848
1891 -1845
1901 -1846

On her admittance to the refuge in 1859 she was aged 14 next birthday - this would make the birth around 1845-46
I will check her marriage cert when I get home

[clairenorman39]

On her marriage certificate  she is 24 years old in September 1871 - that would put her birth at late 1846 or early 1847

[katherinem]

Hi Claire,

The dates for Dorothy's birth date seem to be pretty constant.  I have trawled and trawled through the 1851 census but can find nothing for her or Frederick.  I was hoping to find Sarah Ann Robinson, I had a quick check through the death records, she doesn't appear to have died before the 1851 census, but of course we don't know where they were living
I would be very surprised if Sarah was Dorothy's mother, as there is 5 to 6 years difference in the time frame between birth and marriage, but you never know, there could of course have been underlying reasons.
Personally I would be inclined to find out more about Sarah and Frederick's marriage as it could yield more clues (or muddy the waters further) i.e. it would be interesting to see what status Frederick is i.e. bachelor/widower. 
You never know Frederick could have been one of those rare men back then, that was willing to take on his illegitimate daughter, it is still interesting that we can find no mention of Dorothy Hosthead after 1851, if only we could find Frederick in the 1851
Regards, Kath

[Valda]

Claire

you might want to think about contacting Lincolnshire Family History Society.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/lfhs/

and ask them whether any of their members undertake research. I find people recommended by family history societies are efficient and have a very good local knowledge (which makes them even more useful) and a good knowledge of what records are available to search - again that can be very profitable. They ususally are reasonable when it comes to charges as well.

Regards

Valda

[clairenorman39]

Thanks Valda - I will do that today.
Alternatively it looks as though I may come up to Lincoln myself to spend a day searching. The disadvantage to this however is that geographically I am at a loss so maybe its best to pay someone else to have a look.
Many thanks
Claire

[hcoldron]

Claire,

You can always ask local people to have a look for you - post a lookup request on the relevant board.

Hayley

[clairenorman39]

Update - Im still not much further ahead in my quest to find Dorothys mother but.........
I sent off in the end, for Frederick George Robinson and Sarah Ann Berry's marriage certificate.
The certificate names Fredericks father as Joseph - correct
It has Freds date of birth spot on and sats Fred was residing in Bawltry at the time of marriage -which is only 11 miles from Gainsborough.
It also says Fred is a railway clerk/messenger, which is true on all the census results.
He was a batchelor according to the certificate.
So this probably is my Fred but is Sarah Ann Berry, Dorothys mother???
The marriage was 4 years after Dorothys birth.
Any thoughts appreciated.
Claire

[Valda]

Can we have Sarah Ann Berry's information from the marriage certificate? If we can find out more about her, perhaps we can ascertain whether it is possible if she could be Dorothy's mother or not.

Regards

Valda

[clairenorman39]

Thank you for replying.
The marriage took place July fifteenth 1849.
Sarah Ann Berry was 24years old and a spinster.
She was living at Silver Street Doncaster.
Her father was William Berry and his occupation was listed as a cooper??
Witnessess were Caroline Berry and Thomas Morton.
The marriage took place in the Independent Chapel of Doncaster Union.

Many thanks
Claire