Where in Scotland is 'Dumfrost'?

[Hunter]

Hi

I hope someone can help, I have a 1841 transcription which gives the place of birth as 'Damfoot Scotland' or 'Dumfrost Scotland. 

Can anyone suggest where this might be?

Thanks in anticipation
Hunter

[Gadget]

Hi Hunter

My first thought is that Dumfrost is a wrongly transcribed Dumfries. Perhaps you could give us more details of where the people where living or something about them so that a check can be made on the 1851 for example.

Gadget

[Cal241]

Hi
I did  a google search and came across a  Yard at Damfoot, Newmills in Teviot, Harwich which I believe is in Roxburgh.
That is all I found ..... hope that helps a bit  

Cal

[Cal241]

Doh!! It was Hawick not Harwich!! Which is in Roxburgh

[Hunter]

Thanks for the quick response,

my apologies though - it was from the 1851 census not the 1841.

The details are:

Margaret Hunter age 27 Lodger Birthplace Damfoot Scotland (although someone else has given it is 'Dumfrost') They were in Pontefract Yorkshire at the time.

Margaret was Davison prior to her marriage to Alexander Hunter in York in 1839, he was from Attercliffe Sheffield.

On the marriage cert her father was William Davison.  I don't have them in 1861 or later although I do have a child's birth cert, for 1851 born in Hull.

Thanks for the help so far...
regards
Hunter

[Cal241]

Hi
I have just re read my posting and it is not clear (even to me  ) Hawick is a border town so it is quite possible that she went south?
Have you looked on Scotlands People website. My lot were from Roxburgh in Melrose and I have found a great deal from there
Cal

[Gadget]

I agree Cal

Scotlands People is one of my best investments Not only all those lovely certificates and census info, but the OPRs and Wills (if you're lucky) and most available to download/view online.

Gadget

[Forfarian]

it was from the 1851 census not the 1841.
Margaret Hunter age 27 Lodger Birthplace Damfoot Scotland (although someone else has given it is 'Dumfrost') Margaret was Davison prior to her marriage to Alexander Hunter in York in 1839. On the marriage cert her father was William Davison. 

If she was aged 27 in 1851, she was born 1823/4. If she was married in 1839, she would have been no more than 16 years old - not impossible, but very unusual.

Are you working from a transcription of the original census, or from an image? Could you post the image so that we can have a look at it?

[JAP]

Hunter,

I am pretty sure that that it stands for Dumfries-shire.

The enumerator's normal practice is to put the county first.  Often his indication (either for English or for Scottish counties) that there is supposed to be some sort of abbreviation of 'shire' is very rudimentary - perhaps 'sh' or 're' (of varying degrees of clarity) or even just a little curly mark.  And looking at what he normally does, I'd be very surprised indeed if he would list a place in Scotland no-one would have heard of - it isn't his style.

HO107/2330, folio 50
Yorkshire, Pontefract, Newgate

Alexander is on the previous page (24) at the bottom of a long list of lodgers.
The household continues on the next page (25):
David Boggers
Lodger
U
42
Joiner
Inverness^re Scotland  (the last 's' of Inverness is barely there, the 're' is a superscript)

Margret Hunter
- Lodger (actually this is shown only as " )
- M
- 27
- (there is no entry in the occupation column)
- Dumf?sh Scotland (there are a total of 7 letters - I think that the last two letters, interpreted elsewhere as 'st', are actually 'sh' standing for 'shire'; the first four letters are certainly Dumf but the one I've indicated with '?' is very doubtful - however I do feel that the place is meant to be short for Dumfries-shire)

John Hunter
- Lodger (again shown as " )
- 7
- Son of Margret Hunter
- York^e Hull (the 'e' at the end of York is hardly there, and the 'u' in Hull looks more like an 'a')

Catharine Hunter
- Lodger (again shown as ")
- 2
- Daug^t do
- Kent Woolwich
...

JAP

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