Research in Sussex Part 1

[suey]

Hello Chris - Re your Household and Political Directory it sounds fascinating.

Could you have a look please and see if there is any reference to a Richard Sales, wife Jane, I have him as a Fisherman or Fishmonger; in 1851 he was at Castle Ditch, Lewes

Sue

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Suey

There are 2 entries for SALES in the Directory:

7 Church Row - Lewes
SALES John, 32, born Lewes, Huckster, 7 family members, no voting preference.

North Place - Lewes
SALES Richard, 70, Lewes, Ag Lab, 3 family members, no voting preference.

NB - Castle ditch is shown as only having two properties occupied by George Balcombe and Henry Elphick

Chris in 1066Land

[suey]

 :)Thankyou Chris - Looks like they are both mine - I have at last found Richard in 1881 - age way out ! and he is still at North Place with wife and grandchild and at 77 still calling himself a Labourer !

John is his son -  I'm realy pleased, little bits of info like this put a bit of 'meat on the bones'.

Sue

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Suey

Found these SALES burials in nearby St John Sub Castro:

1844 March 3   Sales   Albert   m   Sun St   1.1   OTP
1927 March 7   Sales   Alfred   m   11 St Johns St   77   OTP
1899 September 11   Sales   Arthur   m      59   OTP
1876 March 4   Sales   Elizabeth   f      34   
1886 April   17   Sales   Jane   f      82   OTP
1887 July   26   Sales   Richard   m      83   OTP
1851 November 11   Sales   William   m      45   
1867 June 11   Sales   William   m      22   
1907 June 12   Sales   William   m   41 St John St   68   OTP
1832 February 15   Sales   William    m   Died of the small pox   2   


You might be able to connect with one or two of them

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Suey

A few baptisms from same church register

1847 Dec   19   Sales   Thomas   m   s   William   Philadelphia   Mt Pleasant   Carrier
1850 Mch   1   Sales   Alfred   m   s   William   Phildalphia   OTP   Carrier
1872 Mch   3   Sales   Bessie   f   d   Arthur   Elizabeth   OTP   Labourer
1872 Mch   3   Sales   Ellen   f   d   Arthur   Elizabeth   OTP   Labourer
1874 Jul   5   Sales   Arthur Alfred   m   s   Arthur   Elizabeth   OTP   Labourer

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Ruth

Also, if possible, could you check for Mark James LANSDELL in Hastings in 1841?  He's not with his father and brother in Battle, so maybe was staying with grandparents.

Have checked the 23 volumes of June Barnes 1851 census transcription, (some 160,000 names) and niether of the above are included - this does not include the Brighton Area..

The 1851 for Brighton is on Fiche, but alas I do not have a fiche viewer at the moment - sorry

Chris in 1066Land

[Ruth]

Thanks for trying Chris.  Mark Lansdell became an analytical chemist so perhaps was away studying in 1851.  He subsequently lived in London.  But James is a mystery.  No doubt he will turn up somewhere!

Ruth

[Chris in 1066Land]

Ruth

Remembered I had a very old fiche viewer up in the attic - very tatty and dusty, but it did work. (despite the sun today, it was cold up
there)

Sorry, not one single person named Lansdell on the 2 fiche of Brighton & District.

Once again, apologies - but cant find them (unusual for me to say that)

Chris in 1066Land

[suey]

Chris - amazing, thankyou - the Richard and Jane on the Burials are my Great Grandparents so nice to know where they are.  William age 22 is their son.


I have been looking at Will' and Phil' and was hoping that William was a brother to Richard but from the entries i've found on the IGI it does not look as though he is - pity cos Will died in 1851 and Phil got hitched up with a younger chap Edward Wren and seems to have done very nicely for herself, had a Marine Store supply shop in St John St. Lewes.

I'm fairly sure Arthur is the son of Will and Phil - His wife was Elizabeth so that ties in the baptisms and she is the 34yr old Elizabeth on the Burials.

Don't think Richard and Jane were very hot on Baptisms etc. of the 5 children that I know I havnt been able to find a birth or bap. for any of them!
Sue