Research in Sussex Part 1

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Alord

Firstly, there are over 60 people with the surname Miller / Millar in the vicinity of Westham:

You are right, Richard is not listed, but there are now 6 Henry Millers and 3 Sarah Millers - but Charles, Caroline, Alfred and George have gone.

Sophia and Edward are still there.

Will post details as soon as I have peeled the potatoes for dinner and got the joint in the oven

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi alord

These are the only Millers ‘born in / living in’ Westham in the 1851 census for Westham and surrounding district.

HO 107/ 1637/ Folio 20/ Page 15 - Westham Street 22
MILLER Henry, Ldg, Widower, 54, Cowkeeper, born Arlington, Sussex.
               

HO 107/ 637/ Folio 78/ Page 47 – Jevington, Sussex
MILLER Sarah, 55, born in Sussex was probably a different Sarah, as this Sarah is 65, blind, with a husband John aged 62 from East Dean together with a daughter Maria aged 26 from Jevingdon

HO 107/ 1637/ Folio 20/ Page 13, Westham Street 20
MILLER Edward, Head, Marr, 48, Boot/Shoemaker Master/ born Hailsham
            Sophia, Wife, Marr, 48, born Hellingly, Sussex
            Andrew, Son, Unm, 20, Boot/Shoemaker App, born Westham
            James, Son, Unm, 18, Boot/Shoemaker App, born Westham
            Luther, Son, Unm, 15, Boot/Shoemakers App/ born Westham
            Dorcas, Dau, Unm, 9, Scholar, born Westham
            Samuel, Son, Unm, 4, born Westham

HO 107/ 1637/ Folio 30/ Page 3 – Westham Street, Westham
MILLER William, Lodg, Unm, 22, Gardener, born Westham, living with the Chapman family in Westham Street, Westham.

Chris in 1066Land

[Alord]

Re Millers

Thanks a lot Chris, you are doing a marvellous job!
More thinking needed here!

I'm sure I will think of some more questions soon.

Enjoy your roast.

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi alord

Think as long / often as you want - will still be here to help you.

In an earlier post you said

"Edward Miller is my GGG Grandfather".

Now that we know from the 1851 census he was born in Hailsham, will look through the 24 volumes of the 1851 census transcription to see if we can identify any other 'Miller' born in Hailsham that have moved to nearby villages. (when I have got a quite moment)

Incidentally the 'Millar' entry in the 1851, came from St Pancras, London - so no connection with yours

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again, its me

Had a look whilst waiting for the Yorkshire Puds to rise:

John Miller, Iron Foundry Labourer, 53 born Hailsham with wife Ann, 52 born Lewes and Isaiah aged 15, Iron Founders Lab and William H Miller, grandson aged 1 all in Lewes, Sussex.

James Miller, Gentlemans Groom, 47, born Hailsham with wife Harriet born in Kent and children James 10, George 7, Charles 4, Ann 1 living in South Common, Chailey, Sussex

Samuel Miller, Partly Disabled, 50, born Hailsham, with wife Eliza, 48, born Arlington and children Ann 12, Mary 6, Richard 10, Thomas 5, in Milton Street, Arlington

Their ages fit in nicely with your Edward - Only by looking at the Baptisms in the Parish Register for Hailsham will we find if they are related and who the parents were / are

Chris in 1066Land

[Alord]

Well done Chris you are doing brilliantly!  I can see you like a puzzle.

Yes born in Hailsham put me in a bit of a spin because family 'lore' had it that the Millers had lived in Westham for over 200 yrs(however family lore also has it that they came from Hawick in Scotland - neither of which have been proved yet!)

However, Hailsham makes sense because Edward Miller and family, plus his son Luther through whom I am descended all attended the Zoar Strict Baptist Chapel, Upper Dicker (he was married there also - not confirmed) and is supposed to be buried there although my father couldn't find the stone when he looked there a few yrs ago.  I could never understand why they would go all the way from Westham to Upper Dicker for their services, but this would make sense if he was brought up in this particular church.

If the Lewes records office have the Zoar records I think this must be the next place to look?  I could also try in the WSussex records, although I am not sure how comprehensive their Sussex nonconfirmist registers are  ( I am much nearer Chichester than Lewes).

Anyway its all getting very exciting, and thank you again for all those Millers in Hailsham - more long lost relations maybe?

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again

Yes, I love this kind of research

Have possibly found the parents of them all on the 1841 census of Hailsham:

Samuel Miller, Ag Lab, aged 80 and his wife Elizabeth aged 70 in Hailsham, both born in Sussex

As I said before - its now down to the Parish Registers to connect them all together or otherwise.

Exciting aint it

Chris in 1066Land

PS - I will be visiting the East Sussex Record Office before the end of the month  

[Alord]

Many thanks again Chris re the Millers.

I'm sure I will get back to you on this - ah the thrill of the chase!

[moon]

hello Chris,
my John Cripps  was born May 08, 1828 and died on the first quarter 1909 (have ordered certificate), on 1841 he was 13 born in Richmond (from a watermen family on thames) then by 1951 he was at stonefield road, st mary in the castle, was married to Anna Reeds April 18, 1851 in hastings, 1861 and 1871 i dont know, 1881 age 52 police sergent, 1891 i dont know, 1901 age 72 retired police sargeant so many question is getting his police records (when he started and when he retired) from the East Sussex records office, will pay
Jennifer in Ontario, Canada