Research in Sussex Part 1

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again John

Have also found the following in my own personal database of Memorial Transcriptions:

Memorial Inscription - All Saints Church, Hastings

Memorial 489:
Sacred to the memory of Rachel, the wife of William Spice who died 22nd of December 1847 aged 57 years.  Also near this spot lies John Spice son of the above who died 9th July 1833 aged 9 years.

According to the 1851 census transcription it looks as though Rachel was the widow of William Spice aged 67 of 11 John Street, Hastings – he is the only Spice shown as a widower.

The only other Spice Family shown in the whole of Hastings are at No 1 Winding Street and consists of Mum Sarah 42, with Elizabeth 17, William 15, John & Stephen 13, Mary A 9, Rachel 7, Thomas W 5 and Frederick 3..
Looks like dad was out fishing.  

Hope that was of some help to you

Chris in 1066Land

[john whitelock]

Hi Chris - thanks for speedy reply

My research shows the 2 Williams you mentioned are probably father and son (it is the father who was living at John Street in 1841 and probably the one who was there in 1831. It is possible that William the son was living with his parents and his new wife (married 1829) - I'll do a bit of counting of the persons I know about.

I did know about the 1851 info and by a bit of luck found and photographed the tombstone in All Saints before I knew of the MI transcriptions available.  I can to the same conclusion about dad in 1851

The registered elector information is very useful thanks alot.

Another query I have about the family is the 2 boats that they "captained" - the 'success' (c 1823) and the 'four brothers' (c 1843) [NB not "three" brothers] - have asked at fisherman's museum but no info yet.

Very many thanks


John

[jard]

Hello again Chris
A question regarding research, if you don't mind.
I am a Kent resident, so pretty local. In a couple of months time,I had intended to drive down to Eastbourne to do a bit of local research on my Ticehurst strain, in the local library.
While I'm down there, I would be interested to view some of your collection. Do you take in lost souls for a tour or is yours a private collection ?
Regards
John

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi John

I have an ever open door to anyone who wants to learn about genealogy or do some research.

By all means, please drop in, you are always welcome; plus you get a cup of tea or coffee put in your hand as you cross the threshold (we northerners are like that - I was born in Nottinghamshire) and a sticky bun or two.

I wouldn't say I have a collection - more like a Library of assorted Genealogical publications, plus lots on Hastings (where I live) and Macclesfield (main area of research) plus other books on Sussex. - but you are welcome to browse.

Just give me plenty of notice - gives me time to put the hoover round and dust or I might be able get other half to do it first.

You are welcome anytime

Chris in 1066Land

[~meg]

Chris,
I would like to request a lookup on the 1891 Sussex Census, please, for the Adams family in Lewes:
ADAMS, Charles, Martha, Albert and William.
Unfortunately, I have no birth dates for any of them, just 'abouts', and Charles was born about 1853 in Bucks.
With thanks, meg

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Meh

I am on my way to look for you

Watch this space

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there Meg

Chris,
I would like to request a lookup on the 1891 Sussex Census, please, for the Adams family in Lewes:
ADAMS, Charles, Martha, Albert and William.
Unfortunately, I have no birth dates for any of them, just 'abouts', and Charles was born about 1853 in Bucks.
With thanks, meg

1891 census on line came up with 89 people called ADAMS associated with Lewes. (born or living there)
First name on list was an Albert aged 14 born in Bucks; so had to have a look at the rest of his family

RG12/ 797/ Folio 85/ Page 13 – 7 Lancaster Street, St John Sub Castro, Lewes.

ADAMS Martha, Head, Marr, 42, Retailer of Sweets, born Dunton, Bucks
            Albert G, Son, Unm, 14, House Boy, Mursley, Bucks
            William, Son, Unm, 10, Scholar, born Lewes, Sussex
            Elizabeth M, Dau, Unm, 6, Scholar, born Lewes

The big question now is where was Charles as Martha is shown as Married, not as a widow - and after re-checking the census, we find that there is not one Charles Adams listed anywhere in the country in 1891.

But if you watch this message board - I have a big surprise for you.

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again Meg

Since 2001, I have been working in the Churchyards of Lewes.

Some considerable time was spent transcribing the Burial Registers from 1600 to 1983 and two of those entries are of interest to you:

10th June 1933 – Martha ADAMS of 14 West Street, Lewes, aged 84 years.
20th Feb 1941 – Charles ADAMS of 14 West Street, Lewes, aged 88 years.

Over 2 years were spent in the yard of St John Sub Castro (Sub Castro means 'under the Castle') firstly surveying the yards 800+ stones, then transcribing and photographing the memorials, finally entering it all into a Memorial Database.

Would you believe that one of those stones is to Charles & Martha Adams as follows:

Memorial Number 173

In loving Memory of
MARTHA
Beloved Wife of Charles Adams
Who Joyfully entered into Rest
June 7th 1933 Aged 84
“Redeemed with the precious blood of Christ”

Also of
Charles Adams
Died February 17th 1941
Aged 88 years
“By Grace are ye saved through Christ”

Footstone:
MA 1933
CA 1941

A photo of the monument is shown below

Hope you like all of that and it now fits nicely into your family tree

Chris in 1066Land

[~meg]

Chris, My goodness!  You have overwhelmed me with the generousity of your information!  Thank you very much.  More information than I could have hoped for.  A daughter I didn't know about, a photo of a tombstone, and a bit of intrigue re: Charles's whereabouts in 1891.  
I'm glued to this space.....
meg