COMPLETED - 1841 LOOKUP REQUEST - Maurice & Charlotte WILEMAN

[llysfaen]

Jane is apparently part of the Greathead family tree.

Her picture and brief description (including that she was known as the Liverpool Nightingale) are to be found here:
http://www.greathead.org/Greathead-p/p152.htm

..... Steven.

[Guplik]

Steven
I know about the Greathead site.
Again it is all my stuff.
My wife's family provided the photos, information and we sent everything we had on Tunleys and Gabriels, to the person researching Greatheads, after contact was made, like us.  I believe that sharing can generate  results, however I thought that discretion and respect for the source would be used.
Unfortunately everything, including data on living people down to my children was published.  This angered a lot of people.
Thanks anyway.
I hope your search in Liverpool brings to light something tangible.
Have a good weekend
Gordon

[llysfaen]

Ah!
I'm sorry to see that happen.
It is always a risk, sadly.


I looked at the Cubit census page on Ancestry UK (it has a perfectly clear page).

Is there any other evidence to link them as 'our' Bridget's parents?
The reason I ask is that the name 'Cubit' and the fact that Patrick's wife is shown as 'Johana' rather than 'Jane' makes me instinctively cautious of the possibility that they could be someone else.

The Tilley dwelling below them has a Jane, written clearly, which leads me to believe that Johana is not merely a wrongly spelled name.

..... Steven.

BTW, Hotmail sometimes blocks certain files, so when/if you do email me with any, would you please quote the filename in the email text, so that I will know that you did in fact send something which I had not received?

[Guplik]

Steven
There are no Corbetts in Durham in the 1851 census although an English one does crop up later.
My photocopy/xerox is 20 years old.
Say the word "Cubit" and remember that the enumerator wrote down what he heard, and they were Irish, straight from Clare
Johana is an alternative to Jane (the Sunday Latin name).  She used this and Jane through the Catholic Church censuses, the National Censuses and the Baptisms, marriages and funeral entries that I viewed.
I was concerned , like you, when I could not find Corbetts and glad when they turned up.  You will note that they have living with them Derby O'Connor (Jane's surname is O'Connor or Connor depending on who has written it down) and Bridget Doherty.  The baptismal entry for  Michael Corbett reads "Born March 10 1852. baptised March 14 1852, Michael Corbett son of Patrick Corbett and Jayan nee O'Connor his wife.  Michael O'Connor and Bridget Doherty are godparents.
Other O'Connors are nearbye, in Framwellgate and they show in the Church registers
Patrick's occupation is constant in everything - shoemaker.
Subsequent censuses confirm the details.  By the way they are down as "Cobbet" in the 1854 Census of Roman Catholics and a Jeremiah Connor is with them.
Anyway, I, and another cousin working independently are satisfied and there is no alternative.
You will find with family history reseach that, as you go back in time the population decreases, the quality and quantity of the data decreases, the level of literacy decreases and the social standing becomes marked.  So when a middle class, educated, litterate priest or census enumerator asks a question of a poor Irish country man barely living in a strange industrial town the answer will be documented on their perception of what they have heard and a desire to move on.  Remember also that at the time there was racial discrimination against the Irish.
A point worth mentioning is that I, after 140 years, would have been the person checking the entry for accuracy.
I have found that in nearly every case a Corbett in Durham is a relative of mine.
I bet you wished that you had not asked.
Gordon

[llysfaen]

Thank you for the clarification, Gordon.

I'm quite content now that we do indeed have 'our' Bridget.

I shall add Patrick and Jane to my Family Tree Maker 2006 file immediately!

And no, I'm not sorry that I asked

..... Steven.