Palmer Cornwall and/or Devon 1841-51-61-71

[janan]

Just found these in 1841

Horrabridge, Buckland Manochorum
Catherine Vosper 80 born out of county
in household of Mary Hodgers 60 Nurse

and a few doors away in same house but different household as the John and Caroline Palmer I found

George Vosper 65 Copper Miner
Ann do 50
John do 20
Elijah do 14
William do 7
All but George born in county
HO107/247/7 Pg11/12

Cheers Jan

[crowboy97]

A sincere thank you to Janan, Osprey, CookieCrisp and Krisesjoint for this terrific research effort. My initial goal was to locate Hannah in 1851 and Elizabeth in 1851 and 1861 with the rest being an absolute bonus. 

From the replies, I am certain that the first three questions have been resolved.

Janan's last post with reference to Vosper's living in Buckland Monachorum is critical to proving the 1841 Census whereabouts and the interchangeability of Catherine/ Caroline.

George Vosper and Ann are Cathalina's parents according to IGI (as is brother John).

As Kris suggests it would also seem that the Palmers listed in Buckland Monachorum are all connected in some way and suddenly I am reminded that when you think the end is in sight a whole new scenario is presented with the additional Palmer and Vosper siblings and relatives requiring researching.

Janan,

Cathalina Palmer married  John Axworthy in Plympton St Mary on September 1, 1875.  I cannot decipher the Parish nor her residence at time of marriage.  She died in March Q 1881 - therefore before the 1881 Census. Her birthplace is Mary Tavy according to IGI and 1861 Census.

I will try to work out what these localities might be and post a message.

Thanks again


Crowboy (not talking footy either)

[crowboy97]

Jan,

Cathalina Palmer's residence at time of re-marriage in 1875 was St Budeaux.  The last known location was Liskeard in 1861.

John Axworthy's looks like Tavistock Follett?

Crowboy

[crowboy97]

Tamerton Foliot  might work better!

[janan]

Sorry still no luck with the 1871 
Glad you've got a few things sorted and some more leads  .
Happy hunting
Jan

[osprey]

 I've been having another look for the widow Palmer in 1871 and was wondering whether she was with some of her Vosper relatives. Couldn't find her, but there's a whole host of Vosper patriarchs -  Abraham, Adoniah, Amos, Elijah, Ezekiel. Elijah is definitely her brother. There's a William with sons Eli and Enoch as well.
Interestingly, Adoniah and Amos were born in St. Budeaux - looks like some family link to this place possibly.
Elijah like his sister was born in Marytavy.
I've got the census refs if you want them. 

[crowboy97]

Thanks Osprey,

When you have a moment could you please pass on the Vosper references from St Budeaux.

I was not going to head down the Vosper path but the lure is too great.

Thanks again too for finding Hannah Palmer in 1851.

I think Jane living with her grandparents at Lake (farm?) in 1851 might also be the right one although as you say the age is out by 2.


Regards

Crowboy

[osprey]

sorry to mislead you, the references aren't in St Budeaux, but of Vospers born there so I thought there might have been some family connection to the place. It was the wonderful first names that caught my eye.
all 1851 refs
Abraham H0107/1882 39 72 351    b. Devonport
Amos       H0107/1882 109 5 24      b. St Budeaux
Elijah       H0107/1905 39 10 41      b. Mary Tavy
Ezekiel     H0107/1883 209 14 47    b. Mary Tavy
John         H0107/1882 140 66 345  b. St Budeaux

1871
Adoniah    rg10/2139 94 17 101      b. St Budeaux - he's a naval pensioner so I assume at sea earlier.

I wonder why John was just John and not something far more Old Testament or perhaps there was some sort of religious revival that influenced their parents' choices. They did rather stand out in the census index. Didn't help me find the widow Palmer though. Perhaps she's staying a married niece and wrongly indexed?

[janan]

Hi
Like you Osprey I think Catherine must be staying with a married relative and is wrongly indexed or even entered under wrong surname in census itself - that happened to one of mine in 1881, took me ages to track her down

Jan