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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #9 on: Friday 07 April 06 22:11 BST (UK) »
Surnames SMELLIE, CRAPP, TROLLOPE and PRATT.....

No, I'm not being rude; these are surnames which I've come across in my lifetime.  :o

A lady (quite a posh one) that my mum knew whose surname was Smellie.  A girl I was at school with in the 70s whose surname was Crapp (she was not a happy bunny).  Another girl in the year below me whose surname was Trollope - her parents made sure she was doubly burdened by giving her the christian name of Griselda; and Pratt, the name of a certain Sid who used to board at my grandma's house - always the butt of family jokes... ;)

Obviously, these names have an origin... :-\ but thankfully, I've personally avoided them!  ;)

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Shaw/Smith: Ottawa, Canada<br />Davies/Hill: Monmouth/Gloucestershire/Middlesex/Surrey<br />Chatfield: Kent<br />Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland<br />Lyden: Ireland<br />Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey<br />Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks<br />Boys: Sussex/London<br />Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 April 06 09:31 BST (UK) »
Toplady is a good one - I read this originates as a description of a man who, if he were a woman, would be called all sorts of opprobrious names!  (i.e. he was a bit of a devil with the ladies!)
Connell (Mayo & Lancs 19th/20th c) Culling (Norfolk & London 19th c) Diss (Essex) Giesen (UK only 19th/20th c) Hackney (London) Henbest (Kent & Sussex) Hughes (Mayo to Burnley, Lancs & Edward, Parachute Regiment 40s, 50s) Lister (London) Maltby (Marylebone) Mayo (Glos) Nials Noquet (Huguenot) Phillips (S London) Poulain (France & London) Rayner (Halstead, Essex) Pratt (Kent & Sussex) Redfearn (London) Silk Speller (Rodings, Essex) Thompson (S London) Thurley Trundle Wade Westley

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 April 06 09:56 BST (UK) »
more unhappy bunnies.nobbs,crapper,winkle,clapp,and fluck
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 April 06 10:06 BST (UK) »
I met a Belgian once by the name of Moron
Connell (Mayo & Lancs 19th/20th c) Culling (Norfolk & London 19th c) Diss (Essex) Giesen (UK only 19th/20th c) Hackney (London) Henbest (Kent & Sussex) Hughes (Mayo to Burnley, Lancs & Edward, Parachute Regiment 40s, 50s) Lister (London) Maltby (Marylebone) Mayo (Glos) Nials Noquet (Huguenot) Phillips (S London) Poulain (France & London) Rayner (Halstead, Essex) Pratt (Kent & Sussex) Redfearn (London) Silk Speller (Rodings, Essex) Thompson (S London) Thurley Trundle Wade Westley


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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 08 April 06 10:14 BST (UK) »
Like that one, Mrs Lizzy!  :D

I remember the Bogie family as well (they pronounced it BO-JAY)  ;)

I also like surnames which obviously must have been given hundreds of years ago to actually describe what people looked like: eg the Longbones - these really were a tall, long-limbed family I remember from a while back!  And surnames which have been anglicised, like Pardew, and probably Boys (one of my own), for that matter....

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Shaw/Smith: Ottawa, Canada<br />Davies/Hill: Monmouth/Gloucestershire/Middlesex/Surrey<br />Chatfield: Kent<br />Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland<br />Lyden: Ireland<br />Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey<br />Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks<br />Boys: Sussex/London<br />Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 April 06 10:17 BST (UK) »
I was told that during the last War, one of my Noquet cousins was a cultural attache to the embassy in Moscow and that at a very posh reception, he and his wife were introduced as Monsieur Nocketoff and Madame Nocketover (i.e. Knock It Off and Knock It Over!)  How much truth there is in this I don't know.
Connell (Mayo & Lancs 19th/20th c) Culling (Norfolk & London 19th c) Diss (Essex) Giesen (UK only 19th/20th c) Hackney (London) Henbest (Kent & Sussex) Hughes (Mayo to Burnley, Lancs & Edward, Parachute Regiment 40s, 50s) Lister (London) Maltby (Marylebone) Mayo (Glos) Nials Noquet (Huguenot) Phillips (S London) Poulain (France & London) Rayner (Halstead, Essex) Pratt (Kent & Sussex) Redfearn (London) Silk Speller (Rodings, Essex) Thompson (S London) Thurley Trundle Wade Westley

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 08 April 06 11:54 BST (UK) »
I love finding out where surnames come from.  My surname and my mothers madien name both just mean 'son of' so it gets a bit boring!

What about Burrows?  What would that have been? There are so many Burrows in my tree!  And I dread to think where Hardman came from.

The best surnames I've come across are Duckfield and Cakebread..heh. 
Nottingham/Derby - Alvey, Machin, Scott, Stevenson, Redfern, Lowe, Coupe, Bowler, Strutt, Miller
Worcestershire - Burrows, Smith, Machin, Hardman, Nash, Sanders/Saunders, Davis, Adams
Buckinghamshire - Burrows, Woodward, Adams
Ireland (Dublin/Malahide/Cork) - O'Driscoll, Henvy, Gallaghan

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 April 06 12:16 BST (UK) »
I like that one,Ihave a Scalley and a Knee in my tree
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: surnames where do they come from
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 08 April 06 12:36 BST (UK) »
Well, thought I'd actually see if I could find the meanings of those names which I was jesting about:

SMELLIE: A Scots name referring to someone who smiled alot - Smiley is another derivative

CRAPP: From the Old English meaning 'cropp' meaning cut.  Quite common in Lancs.

TROLLOPE: Norman name 'trois loups' meaning 3 wolves

PRATT: From the Old English 'praet' meaning 'a trick' - it referred to someone who was a trickster or practical joker.

So perhaps old Sid had the last laugh on us.... ;)

Clara
Shaw/Smith: Ottawa, Canada<br />Davies/Hill: Monmouth/Gloucestershire/Middlesex/Surrey<br />Chatfield: Kent<br />Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland<br />Lyden: Ireland<br />Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey<br />Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks<br />Boys: Sussex/London<br />Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex