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Offline mgf

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lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« on: Thursday 30 March 06 17:05 BST (UK) »
Hi all!

First of all, thanks in advance to anyone who picks this up. Sorry this is quite wordy, but my information is a bit fuzzy so I want to present as much of it as possible.

I'm trying to trace my great-uncle Thomas Taylor who emigrated to the U.S. probably some time within a few years of 1920. He was born 14th March 1893 in Walham Green, Middlesex (might also be quoted as Fulham, London) and emigrated as an adult, so unlikely to have been much before the Great War.

My aunt has quoted me a letter from "a neighbor", with return address on Eric(?) Street, Chicago, in 1930 stating that Thomas's daughter Shirley had died aged about 5 -- but I don't have the exact date of the letter, so don't know whether Shirley will have made it on to that year's census. The same letter states that Thomas had been working at "the shelter" for the last 5 years, so they'd probably been in the area for a while. We also know there was a son, Bruce, born in the early 1930s.

I'd be extremely grateful if anyone could locate any useful information about this family. I know I'm asking a lot, but my dream package would include 1930 census record for Thomas Taylor and family (presumably at least wife, whose name I don't know), marriage record for Thomas and said wife, birth/death records for Shirley and birth for Bruce. As I say, I know it's a big ask, but I'd be hugely grateful for anything at all.

Cheers!

Mike
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Richardson - Kent/Sussex
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Taylor - Suffolk
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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 March 06 19:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike

I believe that this is your Thomas

1930 census

I have a copy of this info if required

Agnes

Best wishes

Agnes
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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 March 06 19:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Agnes, looks good. :D

I especially like the look of "Secretary, Social Service" -- chimes well with "the shelter"! ;D

Cheers!

Mike
Fo(o)rd - Sussex (Brighton/Battle)
Collins - SE London / Kent
Clark - central London
Monk - Co. Durham
Owen - Cardiganshire & SE London / Kent
Richardson - Kent/Sussex
Sto(a)kes - Kent
Taylor - Suffolk
Walker - Herts (Redbourn)

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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 March 06 21:55 BST (UK) »
Mike,

You can check here for obits etc.

http://tinyurl.com/sylfj


death record here:

http://tinyurl.com/eok4m

genealogy here:

http://www.mollx.com/

http://www.chicagogenealogy.com/

Susan




SCHOFIELD - Lancashire, Manchester, Oldham


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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 March 06 23:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Ohio Susan -- useful links.

Looks like I can find Shirley's death -- there's an entry for Shirley Grace Taylor with death date 1930-08-04, which looks really good as Grace was Thomas's mother's name.

Going back to that census entry, can someone confirm my interpretation (since this is my first US census record!). It looks to me as though Thomas Taylor and Alice Rossiter must have married in Canada c1924, where Shirley Grace was born about June 1925. This means they must have crossed the border to the United States in the 2nd half of 1925, with Shirley as a babe-in-arms. From the dates of first marriage, and the presence of "daughter-rd" ??? Phyllis Warren, I'm inferring that Alice was previously married to a Mr Warren :o

Heigh-ho! Looks like I'm off to bother our Canadian colleagues  ;D

Thanks all -- this has been most helpful.

Mike
Fo(o)rd - Sussex (Brighton/Battle)
Collins - SE London / Kent
Clark - central London
Monk - Co. Durham
Owen - Cardiganshire & SE London / Kent
Richardson - Kent/Sussex
Sto(a)kes - Kent
Taylor - Suffolk
Walker - Herts (Redbourn)

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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 March 06 01:24 BST (UK) »
The way I see it:

1910 Rossiters in England - May born they imm. in 1923
1910 Alice is 16 Alice marries at 18 = 1912 I think she married Mr. Warren in Eng

1916 Phyliss b Canada

So I guess Alice and Mr. Warren must have imm to Canada between 1912 and 1916
Mr. Warren dies or what ever

Shirley b abt 1925 in Canada

Thomas and Alice must have married around 1924 in Canada

1962-01-09
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Alice G. Taylor, dear mother of Bruce E. Taylor and Phyllis A. Muir;
grandmother of Kimberely. Resting at Marshall Funeral Home, 4817 Chicago avenue.
Service Wednesday, 11 a.m. Interment Acacia Park cemetery.

Thomas not mentioned so not sure she is your Alice.

Susan
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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 March 06 01:37 BST (UK) »
FYI

Per SSDI

Phyllis A Muir b 7 Mar 1916 died 31 Aug 1992 Chicago Cook Illinois

So I think the obit for Alice is your Alice

Susan
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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 March 06 11:07 BST (UK) »
Ohio Susan, you're a star! I failed to find that obit on a quick search -- I can't have been broad enough with my details.

That's definitely my Alice -- the combo of Phyllis and Bruce as children would clinch it for me, even without the additional info on Phyllis.  Looks like Thomas was probably deceased by then -- he'd have been 69, so that's quite likely. I wonder whose daughter Kimberley was?

And a middle initial for Bruce, which might prove invaluable -- I can even hazard a guess that it might be for Edward, as Thomas's brother Edward had drowned in Alberta, Canada, the year before I believe Bruce was born.

It's really Bruce I'm after -- my aunt would like to know if he's still alive (possible -- he'd be 70ish) as if so he'd be her nearest living relative outside of immediate family. She knows he was corresponding with one of Thomas's sisters in England up until her death in the 1970s, and was at that time living in Canada (again -- real border-hoppers these Taylors!), but that's about it.

This has all been immensely helpful -- looks like I need to see if I can get any help with the Canadian end, now....

Cheers!

Mike
Fo(o)rd - Sussex (Brighton/Battle)
Collins - SE London / Kent
Clark - central London
Monk - Co. Durham
Owen - Cardiganshire & SE London / Kent
Richardson - Kent/Sussex
Sto(a)kes - Kent
Taylor - Suffolk
Walker - Herts (Redbourn)

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Re: lookups, Chicago, Taylor c1930
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 March 06 12:05 BST (UK) »
Thomas Taylor signed up for WWI, living in Winnipeg, mother listed as Grace:

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc016/627953a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc016/627953b.gif

They indexed this as b. 16 Mar 1893 but it looks like it could be 14 to me.

Checking Manitoba records, Alice Grey Rossiter m. Arthur Warren 12/14/1912, Winnipeg. (http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php )
An Arthur Warren d. aged 38 9/07/1923 in Winnipeg - possible?
Thomas Taylor m. Alice Grey Warren, 8/20/1924 in Winnipeg.
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