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Offline Cal241

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #216 on: Monday 27 November 06 22:57 GMT (UK) »
I am with you Sue. I find I respond to names too.

Caroline Berenger Bigg is my favourite. It is the Berenger that is a bit on the romantic side for me.... she was illegitimate (and a god awful one to find but she was tracked down eventually as we all knew her as Berenger Cooper..... Cooper was her step fathers name ) I have her natural father as some French aristocrat (but I doubt it and will probably never know)

Again I find that I consider Elizabeth Alice as a soft name but yes I expect she wasn't... hard times and many children

My neice is called Lydia and I have found now that the name is in the Bigg tree not that we had any idea when she was born

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #217 on: Monday 27 November 06 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Somehow names do help you imagine what the person might be like.
As I look like my mother, she like her mother Gran Harriet, I have an idea that Gran looked like her mother, my dreaded Eliza Ann. Now there is a name to breath terror into those who have hunted her down. Eliza Ann sounds very much like a 'working girl' to me, and the man who notched her bedpost, the callous Callus William Webb, who was around just long enough to be my ancestor (please let it be him, we can't find anyone else) well, he was soon off with a girl called Betsy, and we all agree VERY well named.
Bartlett/Henley on Thames
Caponhurst/Buckinghamshire and?
Denchfield/North Marston/Bucks
Webb/Winchester
Mathias/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
John/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
Smith/Portsmouth/Portsea
Purchas/Bucks and?
Olliffe/Bucks

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #218 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 00:00 GMT (UK) »
I've been particularly interested in my great grandma's.  I think the women are pretty influential in the way each generation is raised and that affects the next etc. which in turn, as someone said, makes me what I am - nature and nurture both :)

In memory of and with great respect from your great grandaughter who wishes she had known you all:

Sarah Lloyd b. 1873 Edgerley, Shropshire

Annie Devall b. 1878 Walton on the Hill, Stone, Staffordshire

Alice Besley b. 1882 Croydon, Surrey

Leamantinia Gardner otherwise known as Lemmey - stated year of birth 1888, Carshalton, Surrey but was baptised 05/02/1887 Carshalton so probably a bit older than registered birth date.

I found the other 3 quite easily especially as an aunt had found the first two for me :D   I love Annie Devall's name - haven't seen a lot of Devalls and did intend to research her first but got sidetracked ....

by finding Lemmey* who as you can probably tell is my current source of fascination.  Her name wasn't even given as Lemmy on my grandmother's birth certificate but as Emily.  I know she's Romany as I've now traced her family.  However, she is on some census records but I still haven't found her in 1901.  There are no photographs  :(  I wish ...   

Not only did I respond to her name ......... I borrowed it for my research board name ;)  Finding Lemmey and her family explained a lot about me and my 'little ways' :D


*eventually after lots of false starts and getting the wrong woman totally to start with as I was looking for an Emily.  Lemmey was found by sending for my great grandfather's wedding certificate and fortunately the addresses matched (grandma's birth certificate & great grandma/grandfather's wedding certificate = same address) so I knew I'd found her.  Never give up :D



Croydon, Surrey - KENT, SKILTON, BESLEY, HIGGS
Surrey & Kent - GARDNER, GARDENER, GARDINER, DALLAWAY, STRUDWICK, LANE, PENFOLD (Roma/Traveller)
London - COOKE
Shropshire/Denbighshire/Montgomershire  - FRANCIS, LLOYD
Staffordshire - TOOTH, DEVALL

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #219 on: Saturday 20 January 07 12:03 GMT (UK) »
I've been particularly interested in my great grandma's.  I think the women are pretty influential in the way each generation is raised and that affects the next etc. which in turn, as someone said, makes me what I am - nature and nurture both :)

Sarah Lloyd b. 1873 Edgerley, Shropshire

Wondering if any of your Lloyd family members have any Welsh connections with the Tilston name
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations


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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #220 on: Saturday 20 January 07 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Tilston is not a name I know but I haven't done much research on that side of the family yet.  I will pm you what I have.  :)
Croydon, Surrey - KENT, SKILTON, BESLEY, HIGGS
Surrey & Kent - GARDNER, GARDENER, GARDINER, DALLAWAY, STRUDWICK, LANE, PENFOLD (Roma/Traveller)
London - COOKE
Shropshire/Denbighshire/Montgomershire  - FRANCIS, LLOYD
Staffordshire - TOOTH, DEVALL

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #221 on: Saturday 20 January 07 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Lemmey
Could this be your Lemmey in 1901?

8 Mile Place Carshalton
William Brown Head M 33 Builders Laborer Carshalton
Adelaide do Wife 23 Kent Benenden
Egbert do Son 5 Carshalton
Leomantine (n's look like his u's) Gardiner Sister 12 Carshalton
RG13/579/109 Pg45

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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« Reply #222 on: Sunday 21 January 07 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Ooooo.  Can I adopt Leomantine and Egbert??  Would love to have different names like that in the tree. :D
Currently engaging in a one-name study of the Twyman surname.

Golding, Twyman, Kennard, Wales (Kent).
Berks, Challinor (Staffordshire).
Wakely. (Glam & Monmouth).

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #223 on: Sunday 21 January 07 04:59 GMT (UK) »
So would I love those names  sgolding but I'm afraid

I just have the following plain names for my great-

grandmas.

Susanna Louisa Hockey b Lambeth, London  - 1848

Emma Middleton b Westminster, London - 1857

Alice Annie Rust b Southwark, London  - 1861 and

Anna (Annie) Moss b Westminster, London  - 1863

Still, a couple of the sur-names are quite interesting !

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #224 on: Sunday 21 January 07 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Lemmey
Could this be your Lemmey in 1901?

8 Mile Place Carshalton
William Brown Head M 33 Builders Laborer Carshalton
Adelaide do Wife 23 Kent Benenden
Egbert do Son 5 Carshalton
Leomantine (n's look like his u's) Gardiner Sister 12 Carshalton
RG13/579/109 Pg45

Jan ;)


Thank you very very (lots of  ;D )much.  You have solved not one but 2 mysterys.  I have been looking for an Ada/Adelaide who married a Brown as I knew that was the person who raised Lemmey's daughter (my nan).  I had found a possible on BDM marriages and can now cross check my info.  ;D

Also I have found Lemmey in 1901 - brilliant  ;D

She was Adelaide's sister not William's so it should say 'sister in law'.

Absolutely brilliant.  Did I say thank you very much  ;D
Croydon, Surrey - KENT, SKILTON, BESLEY, HIGGS
Surrey & Kent - GARDNER, GARDENER, GARDINER, DALLAWAY, STRUDWICK, LANE, PENFOLD (Roma/Traveller)
London - COOKE
Shropshire/Denbighshire/Montgomershire  - FRANCIS, LLOYD
Staffordshire - TOOTH, DEVALL