Author Topic: Help with a death cert  (Read 4762 times)

Offline KatieC

  • I am sorry but my emails are not working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 29
    • View Profile
Help with a death cert
« on: Tuesday 28 March 06 08:27 BST (UK) »
Can anyone read the first name of the witness on this death certificate?

It's -something- McGowan Son Present.  I cant read the -something-


Thank you!
O'Hara, McGowan, McKechnie, Liddell, O'Neill, Bashford

Offline JAP

  • RootsChat Leaver
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *
  • Posts: 5,034
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 08:47 BST (UK) »
First impression is William - but who knows ...

JAP

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,896
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 08:54 BST (UK) »
Is it William McGlowan or McGouan ???

Certainly is 'son present'

Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline kerryb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,926
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 10:17 BST (UK) »
I'd agree with William McGlowan!

Kerry :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Searching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website ....


Offline JLo

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 527
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 10:20 BST (UK) »
Looking at the 'n' on the end of 'son', I would go for William McGonsin, but I think KatieC already knows it's McGowan, so I guess it's only the William that she needed and we all agree on that ??? ???
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
White (Bucks)
Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)

Offline KatieC

  • I am sorry but my emails are not working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 29
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 10:22 BST (UK) »
I know for sure the last name is McGowan, as the name of the deceased was McGowan.  I just couldnt make out the first name.  William may be right, I just didnt have him on my list of children.
O'Hara, McGowan, McKechnie, Liddell, O'Neill, Bashford

Offline JAP

  • RootsChat Leaver
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *
  • Posts: 5,034
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 13:31 BST (UK) »
Hi KatieC,

Looking at your previous posts, I take it that the parents are Thomas MCGOWAN and Agnes MCKECHNIE who married in 1845 in Gorbals.

The online IGI lists 8 children for them (including one - Bernard, 20 Aug 1864 - who was registered in both Hutchesontown and Dunoon & Kilmun which seems odd).  Of these 8 children, only one is before the introduction of Statutory Registration (1855).  So it rather looks as though there may well have been several children between the marriage (in 1845) and the first child recorded in the IGI (in 1854) - possibly including a William?

Do you have the family in the 1851 and 1861 censuses from ScotlandsPeople?  If not, these could well include names of earlier children (assuming that there were some) - also, of course, ages and birthplaces.

Regards,

JAP

Offline capricorn

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 787
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Katiec,   I agree it looks like William. They did have a son William, here is the family in 1861 census index (Glasgow)

Census taken Hutchiestown.

Thomas McGowan age 41 born Ireland
Agnes (McKechnie) age 34 born Linlithgow
William age 14 born Gorbals
Agnes age 12 born Gorbals
Mary age 8 born Gorbals
Maria age 4 born Govan
Thomas A age 2 born Govan
Rosea F age 1 born Govan

Liz
Census information Crown Copyright, from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline northern_rose

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 630
  • At least one of my ancestors was glamorous!
    • View Profile
Re: Help with a death cert
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 17:27 BST (UK) »
I too read William.

Following Capricorn's post i am sure it is William as the death cert then follows the tradition for the oldest child to take responsibility for registering deaths.
Wilson in the Lancaster area
Clegg in Todmorden
Adamson in Edinburgh
Miller in Edinburgh
Nunn in Norfolk and Co Durham
Smith in Glasgow
Haig in Peebles/Edinburgh
Also Nelson, Gardener, Garnett, Blair, Coleman, Aaronson and many more as the branches expand!

Census info is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk