Daniel MAGGS of Fittleton/Haxon

[B.E.]

Another branch of my wife's family goes back to Daniel Maggs (b.1795) and his wife Mary (b.1791).

Daniel (and/or Mary) must have been deeply religious, since they called their kids Elijah, Levi, Martha, Ephraim and... Jane!! Our link is through Ephraim. Source: 1851 census.

Can anyone get Mary's maiden name for me or does anyone know anything about the family that will get me back another generation?
Cheers,
Brian

[krisesjoint]

Hi Brian, thought I would try 1841 in case there was anyone of interest in the household...pity

HO107/1176 Folio 4/8 Page 10
Hacklestone Tything
Hacklestone
Fittleton
 
MAGGS Daniel 40 Y (Yes born in County) Ag Lab
MAGGS Mary 40 Y
MAGGS Elijah 15 Y
MAGGS Jane 11 Y
MAGGS Levi 7 Y
MAGGS Martha 4 Y
MAGGS Ephraim 10 Months Y

same page

Hacklestone Manor House

home of William Bruges 45 - farmer

MAGGS Elisha 20 Y Ag Lab

this is the oldest person in the parish

HO107/1176 Folio 4/4 Page 2
Fittleton
Hacklestone
Fittleton

DREWITT John 20 Y Ag Lab  (Ag Lab is ditto down erest of household and Edith even the 1 year old!)
DREWITT Eliza 20 Y
DREWITT Charles 3 Y
DREWITT George 4 Y
DREWITT Henry 1 Y
MAGGS Edith 72 Y

also household of George 40 and Mary, William 20 and Mary (not Georges son as he has a 15 year old)

Hope it helps....Kris 

[B.E.]

Kris,
Thanks for that, despite there being no breakthrough information. A couple of questions, if I may:

1. I understand that the 1841 census involved the rounding down of ages to the nearest 5 years, but the discrepancies between the ages recorded here and in the 1851 census seems a bit extreme. In ten years Daniel has risen from 40 to 55 and Mary from 40 to 59! Any thoughts?

2. Do I take it that the 1841 census failed to record the relationships between members of the household? Thus we have no way of knowing who Edith Maggs was and why she was living in the Drewitt household?

I have to admit to being a less than assiduous researcher who often prefers the speculation to the facts. Thus, even if we can't establish the truth of the matter, I can readily form a picture of Daniel and Mary in their little hovel running out of room as they extend their family and gradually kicking the older kids out. Goodness only knows where Abraham, Noah and Methuselah ended up, but it looks as though Elisha went over the road to the big house and maybe Eliza was ordered to take Granny Maggs with her when she married John Drewitt (the deal was that Granny would help with the harvest - or at least babysit while Eliza did!!). Wow, Elisha, Elijah and Eliza all under the same roof? And sister Martha was recorded in 1851 as being deaf - great fun for lip-reading when they all came round on Mothering Sunday, that!

Cheers,
Brian

PS: I didn't get your last sentence. What is George's surname? Who can't be George's son because "he" (who?) already has a 15 year old?

[krisesjoint]

Sorry Brian it isn't Me Honest    ...1841 census has many shortfalls. No POB is listed only born in or outside the County. Relationships are not listed, adult names are rounded down in 5 year blocks therefore Daniel listing as 40 should be between 40 and 44....Now Mary if she was close to 45 she would appear as 40 and come next census you get a discrepancy. We don't know who provided the information to the enumerator!  so we often get large discrepancies unfortunately. I have one of my main couples who between 1841 and 1851 he ages only one year while she ages 17 years to go from a big age difference between this couple om 1841 to suddenly being nearly the same age in 1851 (definitely the same family) No wonder I can't confirm him.

Perhaps parish records will help you. You can order Parish Records in to your local LDS family history centre worldwide for very little cost and hopefully sort it all out. I did mention the other Maggs on the parish in case it helped you sort out your family...there is George MAGGS and family with a son (presumably) William aged 15 so I was just pointing out that the other William listing as aged 20 probably wasn't his so may be one of yours....Kris 

[B.E.]

Kris,
Thanks for the additional information.
Cheers,
Brian

[briangreen]

Hi Brian, my name is Brian too and I have traced myself back to Daniel Maggs. I have just stumbled across your posting whilst doing some research prior to a visit to the records office in Trowbridge to try and go back further than Daniel and to find Mary's maiden name.

I have not got back any further than you have on the Maggs side. I would be most interested in sharing research details with you and in seeing how I and your wife are related.

Bye for now,

Brian G.

[B.E.]

Brian,
Yes, let's share what we have - I've seen your post to the Green thread, so I can see where you now fit! I'll send you a personal message so we don't bore everyone else rigid...
Cheers,
Brian

PS: My wife and I drove through Fittleton/Haxon today. I dropped by the churchyard to try a bit of grave-spotting, but nothing to show for it - I guess the Maggses were either too darn poor or too darn wicked for a gravestone!!

[briangreen]

Hi Brian, I will look forward to hearing from you.

Did you get up to Trowbridge to get more info??

We have not been to Haxton yet but have been to Winterslow (last year). With regards to the lack of gravestones, I am sure that it must have been the lack of money    and not the latter!!!

I have now found your posting re the Snooks too. My wife's side came from the Beaulieu area. I already have some Snooks in my records!!

Bye for now,

Brian G

[suziegreenhill]

Hi Brian,

did you ever resolve your questions about the Maggs family? I am descended through John Drewitt & Eliza Maggs so have looked at some information on this. Happy to share if it is of interest.