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[audrey]

128 Butlers listed in Wexford to many to post hear send me E mail by PM


I will send you the list put Butler so I will know what file to send

audrey

[erin21]

Dear Mike

Thanks for your information  I appreciate it

Erin

[erin21]

Mary
Thanks for the information. I live in England.

Catherine seems to be an illusive person I know she was living in Dublin in 1935 but no one seems to know what happened to her after that . I believe she also used the name Kathleen. Even her birth certificate is untraceable although her baptism details are in the local church.

Erin

[NIFTYFIFTY47]

We'll just have to hope that my friend turns something up.  Maybe Catherine wanted to "disappear"....it was not unheard of here in Ireland.

Mary.

[erin21]

Mary
Yes I know what you mean and I can understand that in the 1930s    but I cannot understand a person not wanting to contact a member of your family for a lifetime. maybe she died soon after1935, its difficult trying to trace a woman who may have changed her name .i have visited Dublin many times and ploughed through the "big books" in the record office but so far to no avail !!!

Erin

[NIFTYFIFTY47]

Hi Erin,

Catherine would have been 29 in 1935.  It is possible that she became pregnant outside marriage.  That in itself would have been considered a terrible thing but for a 29 year old it would have been considered much worse because "she should have more sense"!  I was born in 1947 and when I was growing up the worst possible "sin" a girl could commit was to become pregnant outside marriage.  Somehow the boys were not considered to have committed a dreadful sin.  I have an elderly friend who to this day considers that her brother broke her Mother's heart and brought shame and disgrace to the family.  Said brother has been married for about 57 years but he is still the one who shamed the family!!!  I know this is hard to understand....I grew up with it and I still don't fully understand that kind of thinking.

I'm just glad that "the times they are a changing".

Mary.

[erin21]

Hello Mary
Yes you are very perceptive. In fact you have hit the nail on the head. The person I have been doing this research for (for 3 years now) is indeed the child of Catherine Butler. She is now 70 years of age and looking at the problem from the oyther side of the coin she has spent her entire life searching for information about her mother and has tried to come to terms with why she was abandoned for a lifetime. Through many avenues I have managed to find that her mother was this Catherine Butler but alas I can find no more details YET !!! I shall continue to try to find out what happened to her. any way thank you for your thoughts. I know what you mean. I was also born in 1947 and growing up in England things were very similar in those days.
Thanks again

Erin

[NIFTYFIFTY47]

Hi Erin,

This was not just perception....it was growing up in Ireland and knowing how the Irish minds of that time worked.  I will certainly do my very best to see if I can help you get to the bottom of this.

Life was very cruel back then.

Mary.

[erin21]

Thanks Mary

I really appreciate your help.

Erin