John & Ellen Ryder - Any information

[heywood]

I'm glad you typed it all out- yes I agree with you and have just checked - there are Rider in Welshpool -1851 but of course it's the 1841 that Marcus needs to go for now. Welshpool/ Worthen and Ford are in a triangle and Welshpool and Worthen are 11 miles apart. Genuki says that part of the parish was in Montgomeryshire.
Hope Marcus can get some more info from all this!

[cheryle.f]

  All i know for sure is that i would like some of whatever John had been drinking..... 1861 he was 31 and 10 years later only 39 Hee Hee little fibber! Have you already got the marriage info Marcus?

                       regards cheryle

[m4uke]

Hi everyone who helped....Sorry had to go out last night so only found the replies this morning.

Thats better than I have done....its fantastic....

I am going to recheck the birth date on the paperwork I have been given....but I think you probably understand my frustrations

Never mind now though....I can start tracing back this info...

Thanks to all

Marcus

[heywood]

Marcus,
I'm sure lots of people will tellyou- ages often varied. I don't suppose it mattered that much then about age!

[cheryle.f]

 Hi Marcus.....found this last night and was thinking you already probably had....but just incase here is the daughter that shows in the 71.


                                Anna Sarah Ryder Portsea 2b441
                                July-Sep Quarter 1869


                      cheryle

[cheryle.f]

And i picked up too on the Ellen Foot idea in 1851 but i looked at this one and looking at the names of the mother and sister maybe it's more than coincidence.....

          HO197/1659 Landport District 1tt  Page 20

          Green Lane

          Thomas Foot  Head  47  Farm Lab  Portsea
           Anna Foot      Wife   45                      ''
           Sarah J Foot   Dau    18                     ''
           Eliza  V Foot    Dau    14                     ''
           William G  Foot  son   12  Brickmaker  ''
           Anna M  Foot  Dau  11      Scholar       ''
            George Foot   son    5                        ''
            Ellen Foot  Dau  4                               ''


                                      best wishes cheryle                     

[cheryle.f]

Had a look through to see if the Foot name had been mistranscribed in the 51 and followed the 61,71,and still the same all through to the 81. Where yet again the daughter in this case takes their  mothers name for the daughter.. This daughter  married as a Foot so absolutley no mistakes here. There are no near misses even with the Forth surname and Ellen!!!!!!!

         1881 Portsea District 25 RG11/1156 page 21
          64 Hyde Park Road

          Anna  Tuck   Head  41  Widow (income from the mangle) b Portsmouth
          Anna Tuck    Dau     5   scholar                                          b Portsmouth
          Elizabeth Tuck dau  2                                                        b Portsmouth
          Thomas Foot  father 77 Widr  Farm Lab                             b Portsmouth

          Anna M Foot 1866 2b 714 Oct-Dec
          Portsea Island Hampshire married John Tuck



          No Ellen Forth born in 1847 Portsea that i can find but...

          Ellen Foot 1847 Apr-June Quarter V7  1-2 Portsea Island hampshire.  Where did you get the  nee Forth info from in the beginning.

       

                           regards cheryle


        PS Looks like heywood scored a direct hit earlier with the BMD info.

                    Ellen Foot 2b 655 1873  Jul - Sep Quarter  Portsea Island
                    married John Ryder

                    so looks like in the 1871 they were not married in the census but said they were.

        Thats it now i'm going  for a lie down ...i'm knackered


                          enjoy hope it all leads to something

                                         best wishes cheryle                         

         

[cheryle.f]

 Oh! just one more thing......


          John Ryder Birth Date 1833
          Died Jan - Mar Quarter 1907 age 74 11b 142  Forden Montgomeryshire Shropshire

                                       night

 This is not your John as looks like he died between the 81 and 91 census's but John may turn out to have some connection with your tree as some similarities.


 Looks like this could be your John....

                              John Ryder b about 1838

                              Year of Reg 1888  Jul-Sep Quarter age 50 Portsea Island 2b 276


                                     regards  cheryle           

[heywood]

Good evening (should say night now- nearly bedtime!)
IGI has the marriage of John Ryder 36 yrs and Ellen Foot 26 yrs (rare to have ages) 1st July 1873 (extracted from records). Could be ... do you think?
heywood