German Records! So close yet so far away...

[foxglove]

Hi Bob and Kristin,

I have the new address for the map site - the page for Germany is at : http://www.fallingrain.com/world/GM/

I have been trying to figure out a match starting with "Alt" under Hessen without much luck.
Maybe the two of you can figure it out.

Cheers,
Carol (Foxglove)

[nutkin]

I am at work right now (lunch break) and will try to resize an area for you when I get home.  I will try to bring some dancing girls...but short notice for the ones I know!

[nutkin]

Home from work and was unable to find the dancing girls but I was able to scan the other part of the certificate.  Still learning how to use the darn thing.
 

Lets see how this helps.  I am also going to post the cover page of teh marriage certificate.  Has more writing.- Kristin

[nutkin]

Here is the cover page.

[rezzyrezz]

Hi, I was looking at the certificate you posted and as far as we (my wife is german) can tell the place of birth is Altenhausen, Hessen. That may be a good place to look. regards..

[Berlin-Bob]

I agree with Rezzyrezz and his wife:  Altenhausen, Hessen

BUT:  I tried a german site: http://gov.genealogy.net/index.jsp (Geneal. Place names catalogue)

with altenhausen and got three possibilities:

Name           PLZ                  staatliche Zugehörigkeit
(Name)       (zipcode)           (Federal State)

Altenhausen 74523             Baden-Württemberg
Altenhausen W8050            Bayern RB Oberbayern - Freising   
Altenhausen 39343, O3241 Sachsen-Anhalt RB Magdeburg - ?

Problem:
a) None of them are in Hessen
b) the handwriting doesn't look like any of the above states !

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Kristin,

just came across this link for German Organs: http://www.hetorgel.nl/links/lduitsland-rest.htm

Lots and lots of links here, just the job for a rainy afternoon !

orgelbauer= organ builder

I found two references to "orgelbauer schwarz" in google, one for an organ built in 1903, another in 1908 - is the "family firm" still going ?, or could it still have been going in 1908 ?

[nutkin]

Hey Bob!  I am going to check out your link after I email you.  The Schwarz family came to the US in 1868 so I am not sure if they were still in business in the early 1900's.  It is possible that my Henrich and John Schwarz came from a second son and did not keep in touch with those left in Germany who ran the organ manufacturing business- Kristin.

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Kristin,

I was hoping to give you a few christmas nuts, but, although edible, they turned out to be red herrings !

I was in my local music library recently so I thought I would look up "Schwarz - Orgelbauer"

Red-Herring 1) I found an article in a german music reference book, but then found the same article in the Grove Dictionary of Music (see attatchment)

Red-Herring 2) The only reference to Schwarz in South Germany was in Üblingen - which I can't (so far) find in any internet search machines !

I shall keep looking !  You mentioned some time that the Schwarz organs were still around. Can you let me/us know where they are, perhaps we can trace him through them.

Happy New Year, and I hope you find all your nuts !