Author Topic: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2  (Read 11658 times)

Offline Shash

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
    • View Profile
A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:33 GMT (UK) »
What did a British Sergeant Major wear on his head (kind of hat) please and did he have anything else on his uniform that would indicate that he was indeed a Sergeant Major.
I also have a badge /pin in my possession that has different coloured ribbons hand sewn at the back obviously by the person who wore it. Are these coloured ribbons indicative of something please? The pin is 5 inches long and one of the coloured ribbons sewn over it is covered with a heavy duty plastic. I'm wondering why this is so if anyone knows please.

shash
BUTCHER, BONE, CALLADINE, COWELL, CROW(E), FITZGERALD, HAMMOND, HEBBORN, LANE, LEWIS, LOUNSBURY, MERRITT, PICKRAM, STEWART, SPRINGSTEAD, SPENCER, TYRELL, TITTERSON, WILSON, YOUNG

Offline manmack

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,225
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:41 GMT (UK) »
shash,its a medal ribbon,can you post a picture,mack
military history,mainly ww1,manchester pals battalions,tyneside irish +tyneside scottish brigades,leeds,liverpool,accrington,birmingham,hull,barnsley,swansea and salford pals.

Offline Shash

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Mack, sorry but I don't have a digital camera nor do I have a scanner. I could try and get a friend to photograph it with her digital and then she could send it to me. I'll try my best.

shash
BUTCHER, BONE, CALLADINE, COWELL, CROW(E), FITZGERALD, HAMMOND, HEBBORN, LANE, LEWIS, LOUNSBURY, MERRITT, PICKRAM, STEWART, SPRINGSTEAD, SPENCER, TYRELL, TITTERSON, WILSON, YOUNG

Offline M.T.H

  • I am sorry but my emails are not working
  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 949
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk.

British Military History


Offline Wendi

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,088
  • Peeking into the past
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shash

You asked about hats, a beret perhaps, or have you something more interesting?

You need to look further at what is on the shoulders and arms to identify rank.

Hope that helps

Wendi
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it!  No matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

SCOTT ~ Monmouthshire & Glamorgan
BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
______________________________________
Census information posted here is Crown Copyright from The National Archives

Offline Shash

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 March 06 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wendy. I'm looking at the photo now. There is a lapel on both shoulders with nothing on them that I can see. The pin with the medal ribbons that Mick taught me about is pinned above his pocket on his left side. On the left sleeve are 3 white stripes and something blurred that looks round and the size of a button above the stripes. It may be nothing.
On his right sleeve are the 3 stripes again, but I can't see a button like object above them.
On his right pocket where the button is, its like he's put a short rope item with a knot in it on the button prior to buttoning the pocket up. (like a small lanyard)

He is wearing a shirt and tie under the outer long sleeved top that I am describing. That's it. Oh, the date is 1947.
BUTCHER, BONE, CALLADINE, COWELL, CROW(E), FITZGERALD, HAMMOND, HEBBORN, LANE, LEWIS, LOUNSBURY, MERRITT, PICKRAM, STEWART, SPRINGSTEAD, SPENCER, TYRELL, TITTERSON, WILSON, YOUNG

Offline Wendi

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,088
  • Peeking into the past
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 March 06 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shash

Well the 3 strips are right for a Sergeant, perhaps the button makes it a Sergeant Major  ??? I'm hoping that someone else can confirm this for you.

Were you able to confirm any of the medals via the site Mick gave you (I know it's not easy)

Wendi
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it!  No matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

SCOTT ~ Monmouthshire & Glamorgan
BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
______________________________________
Census information posted here is Crown Copyright from The National Archives

Offline liverpool annie

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 13,434
  • Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 March 06 21:48 GMT (UK) »




Hi Shash !

Can you post the photo ? it would be better for people to see what you're describing !

Annie  :) :)
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407030702/http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolannie

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407191115/http://manchestersoldiers.webs.com

http://web.archive.org/web/20130807102055/http://www.powv.webs.com/
Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I

Offline Shash

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
    • View Profile
Re: A Sergeant Majors attire? WW2
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 March 06 22:44 GMT (UK) »
I had great help with the medal ribbons site and all of the advice. It was fantastic. My dad didn't do anything courageous for any of the medals, but at least I know what they were for now. I also had the back of a photo interpreted for me. Everyone on this list has been so great.
I am going to try and get a person with a camera to help me post the photo of my dad.

Thanks so much everyone.

Shash
BUTCHER, BONE, CALLADINE, COWELL, CROW(E), FITZGERALD, HAMMOND, HEBBORN, LANE, LEWIS, LOUNSBURY, MERRITT, PICKRAM, STEWART, SPRINGSTEAD, SPENCER, TYRELL, TITTERSON, WILSON, YOUNG