Edwards of Llangollan

[Gadget]

In 1851, Job and Mary are in Bronygarth (Parish of St Martins, Shropshire). Again, this is one of those 'edge' townships on the very border with Llangollen and Chirk parishes.
At this time, Job was a Sawyer, but it is definitely them - he born Llangollen, circa 1813 and Mary, b. Llanymynech. They have their one year old daughter, Mary, with them. This would suggest a marriage between 1848-1850, probaly Oswestry Registration District.
You haven't mentioned the 1842 marriage before. It's possible but iffy
Alternatively, it might be worth trying to find the birth registration of Mary (between April 1849-Mar 1850) or one of the other children. This will give mother's maiden name.
Gadget

[piffy]

Thank you I will try that next. the 1842 date was just one I found as A marriage of A Job Edwards in Oswestry. nothing certain at all.

[piffy]

I THINK I have the marriage in Wrexham sept 1850. her name was Mary Turnley. I don't suppose there is a place I can find anything more online without sending for a marriage certificate is there? I also THINK I may have the birth of little  Mary born in the last quarter of 1850, which would explain the family not being over joyed! I am still a bit new at this but I went on 1837 online. and these were the only matches for both marriage and birth.
I've never sent for a certificate before, is there a difference in the places you send for them? I got it off the Werxham council site.

[Gadget]

Hi Piffy

Are you sure the Wrexham one is correct. With their residences/birthplaces, I'd say the RD would be Oswestry or Corwen (covered Llangollen, etc.).
However, the only thing to do is bight the bullet but I'd get one of the children's Birth certs before the marriage one - you'll get mothers maiden name on that.

Gadget

[piffy]

As I said I am new to it. as I understand it the records became a legal thing in 1837?  and 1837 online has more or less most of them? I searched that and only came up with the ones I stated for Marriage of a Job Edwards in the two years before  Mary (Jr's) birth I was very surprised to see so few nationwide for the same names. but, the only record I found for Mary (Jr.) as to her birth WAS from Oswestry 1850. SO, You think I would be best trying to get Mary(Jr) birth cert?
may I just go back a bit and ask how you found Job born 1812 in the records for Chirk? is that a thing on line? or just a thing you knew from previous searches? ... (piffle head (piffy)by name and piffle head by nature! )

[Gadget]

Piffy, I'd get Mary, jnr's birth cert before anything else.

Before 1837 we have to rely on baptismal records rather than birth records. Luckily I have access to the church records of most parishes in the border area (built up over the past five years). If they were RC, non-conformist or the parish clerk/clergy did not enter them, then it's more difficult.

When you get the cert, let me know and I'll help you over the next stage if you like

Gadget

[piffy]

thax gadget. I will try sort that out