Bowen 1851-1871

[Brian & Berni]

 Can anyone find this family on the 1851-1871 census


1881
John BOWEN   Head   M   Male   73   Chirbury, Shropshire, England   General Labourer     
 Ann BOWEN   Wife   M   Female   70   Worthen, Shropshire, England   General Labourer Wife     
 Mary Ann BOWEN   Gran Daur      Female   12   Chirbury, Shropshire, England   Scholar     


RG11
  Piece / Folio   5491 / 19
  Page Number   10

[sem73]

Hi Brian

..1851..

John Bowen 46 Head. Farm Lab b.Chirbury
Ann 40 Wife b.Worthen
Ann 9 Daughter b.Chirbury
James 7 Son b.Worthen
Mary 4 Daughter b.Chirbury
Thomas 1 Son b.Chirbury

Marton Village, Shrops

HO107/2498/276/2

Sarah

[tazzie]

1871 RG10/5621 F24 P11

 Wortherton


 John Bowen h m 62 aglab Chirbury
 Ann              w m 63          Worthern
 Mary Ann      g/d 2             Chirbury


                                Tazzie

[tazzie]

I don't  know where they are in 1861 tried allsorts. Will have a go with this later.

           Tazzie

[lancs.rose]

Hi Brian, Sarah and Tazzie,

Where in 1861?  Wales!

It seems that Wortherton was deemed to be in Montgomeryshire in 1861 rather than Shropshire.

Anyway, here is the full entry:-

1861 Census

Wortherton, Montgomeryshire

John Bowen - Head - md. - 48 - Agricultural Labourer - b. Salop, Chirbury

Ann Bowen - w. - md. - 46 - Agricultural Labourer's Wife - b. Salop, Worthen

John Bowen - s. - unm. - 20 - Agricultural Labourer - b. Salop, Chirbury

Mary Bowen - d. - 13 - Scholar - b. Salop, Chirbury

Edward Bowen - s. - 7 - Scholar - b. Salop, Chirbury

Ref:  RG9 / 4255 / ED2 / f.19 / p.10


Hope this helps.

Regards,

lancs.rose

[tazzie]

Well done lancs.rose

 I tried all Bowen / Bower/ Brown/e combo's

    Did not think of Wales -did not look at map .


                     Tazzie

[lancs.rose]

Hi Tazzie,

I didn't think to look at a map either, as the family had been located consistently in Shropshire.

However, based on recent experience on trying to find someone in Lancashire, but not finding them there and then looking at the Wales census as a total longshot and finding them in Glamorgan, I now try the Wales Census as a matter of course if the England one produces no results.

That policy generally fails - but on this occasion it produced the goods!

Regards,

lancs.rose

[Brian & Berni]

Thank you all for your help

The ages are a bit confusing though

On the 1871 & 1881 census Mary Ann Grand-daughter where are her parents

[lancs.fox]

Hi Brian,

I wonder.......?

Could Mary Ann have been an illegitimate child of, say, Mary Bowen, as it does seem from the 1871 and 1881 censuses that the grandchild is being brought up by her grandparents, not merely visiting on census night?

Mary Ann would have been born around 1869, by which time Mary would have been 21 years old.

The only way to conclusively solve the question would be to obtain Mary Ann's birth certificate and see what her parentage was.

Just a thought on one possibility.

Regards,
Richard

(lancs.fox - who inadvertantly used my wife's 'lancs.rose' log-in last time and so used her moniker!)