Cornish Mystery

[deb usa]

I wonder if this is william Ivey snr's Admiralty Docs?

From National Archives;

Admiralty: Royal Navy, Royal Marines, Coastguard and related services: Officers'...Original page number: 410 William IVEY; Rating; Born: [Not Given]; Age on entry: [Not Given]; Dates served: 1 April 1836-16 April 1844; Date and Type of Application: Admiralty 7 November 1844 .
 Date range: 1844 - 1845.

also William Ivey snr had to have died between 1861-1871
this is a possible death;

William Ivey b abt 1828 died Mar q 1871 Truro
vol 5c p106

deb

[Britgirl]

re Joseph and Louisa Ivey

this is a possible family in 1911


1911
Living in West ham , Essex
IVEY
Joseph, 50, b 1861
Louisa , 38 b 1873
Joseph 17 b 1894
Louisa 15 b 1896
Alice 11, b 1900
Ellen 8 b 1903
Henry William 5 b 1906
Lily Augusta 3 b 1908
Kathleen 2 b 1909

deb

To that I'll add Rose Caroline born & died Dec 1903 Mile End and
Rose A born Mar 1912 W. Ham

I looked all around for the birth of Richard Ivey, and then found I'd made a note that he and Peter Charles seem to be one and the same!  No idea why they called him Richard though!

[deb usa]

Hi cous

have been looking for Peter Charles to no avail ... and yes ...so Peter=Richard ...very strange

[Britgirl]

re; Richard and Maria Ivey

in 1911 it looks like these are the people with Maria Ivey, 48 b 1863

Truro
IVEY:
Richard 47, b 1864
Amy 14, b 1897
Clara 10, b 1901
William 6, b 1905

No sign of Beatrice

deb 

Also in the 1891 census Beatrice is down as Beatrice Edwards a  Boarder not their daughter, but by 1901 she is their daughter, so maybe they took her in as a baby?

Or maybe not!

Just found a Beatrice Mary Ivey Truro Sep 1889, and looking closely at the image it looks more like she was 15 months old, not 5 months as it says on the transcription.

[deb usa]

Julia ...edwards ...why Edwards?

I have the Penfolds in 1911 ... would you like a copy? (Bessie Palmer = William Penfold)

deb

[deb usa]

I will have a look at the 1891 ...for Beatrice ...do you have the ref?


PS could not find a death for her 

[Britgirl]

She's at RG12; Piece: 1830; Folio 40; Page 12, with Richard & Maria.

Interestingly, while looking for the marriages of their children  I found the marriage of a Beatrice E (not M!) in Dec 1910, Truro, which is why she wasn't with the family in the 1911 census.

It's ok  Deb, thanks. I had a look for them and didn't find anything unexpected so didn't look at the image! I only had 120 credits so had to prioritise!

[deb usa]

Britgirl/Julia

I am wondering if Richard and Peter are one and the same

we have these two birth reg

Peter Charles Ivey
Jun 1864 - Truro, Cornwall


Richard Ivey
Birth:  Jun 1861 - Truro, Cornwall


they can't be the same person

deb

[Britgirl]

It looks like that Richard died in 1862, but of course it might not be him.

As Joseph was born in 1861 then that Richard couldn't have been of the same family anyway!!

In the censuses Peter/Richard consistantly gives a 1863/4 birthdate.