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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #144 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 05:47 BST (UK) »
Hi deb,

That is good!

When I re-read this thread - when it came up again (!) - I noticed that was something which was still in the "to do" basket.  Hope your friend also checks out the records of George's presumed brothers; John (7), Charles (3) and George (1), sons of William SLACK & Ann, all having been christened on 29 Dec 1803 at St Andrew Holborn.  Though there's still no proof that this is the right George, I guess.

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #145 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 06:20 BST (UK) »
Hi JAP

I have also reread the whole thread again and taken notes of 'to do' stuff  :)

I am not certain who said what and when and on which post but I did take in that a baptismal record of George and his 2 brothers, John and Charles,  might shed some further light on George's dad occupation ...we may even find a mother's maiden name ...who knows .... keeping fingers very crossed LOL.

I am hoping that this is the correct George Slack/Smith ...I think there was a census record where he does state Holborn ...Or ..maybe I should reread everything again ....  ;D :D ;)

deb

ps; I am hoping Lorraine will look up his brothers as well ... I gave her the info..... we need a 'fingers crossed' smilie please LOL
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #146 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 07:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb,

I don't recall Holborn - but might well have forgotten!  In your first post you just said 'London' as the birthplace for George in the 1851 and 1861; Valda, a couple of posts later, gave 'London City' as his birthplace in the 1871.

What we were hoping to get from the Holborn baptisms was, as you say, the occupation of the father William - and hoping that it would be coachmaker (because from the marriage certificate of George & Amelia we know that George's father was William, a coachmaker).  But who knows what else might turn up!

Another "to do" was to clarify the age of the Amelia CARNARTON who died in 1842 (Truro, June quarter, Vol 9, page 245).  fizzybubble suggested an email to the CRO - and said that they will give out the age for free; the more expensive option, of course, would be to buy the certificate.

I suppose, just for completeness, it would be nice to have the death certs of both George and Amelia - English death certs are pretty uninformative but just occasionally there's some useful clue e.g. from the name of the informant ...

Good luck with the baptisms,

JAP

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #147 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 07:53 BST (UK) »
ok i am still reading

parents

george slack and amelia
   
 AMELIA 
MAR 1845   
Chr  30 JUN 1845  Saint Martin In The Fields


sylvia
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #148 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 11:49 BST (UK) »
Sylvia

it is a very long thread and difficult to get your head around all the information, but basically there are two George Slacks living at the same time married to Amelias (not surprisingly since Slack is not a particularly rare surname).
We are only interested in George Slack living in Cornwall married to Amelia Carnarton. We are not interested in George (Angus) Slack the hairdresser in London, one of whose children was Amelia who was born in 1845 in St Martin in the Fields.
I have already given you the basic details on George Angus Slack in my previous message to show you the information was not relevant to the thread and that this was a different couple.

We really have exhausted on this thread all the census information that could be found - with the exception of finding George Slack (coachmaker) on the 1841 census.
We have also found all the civil registration information (excepting overtime descendants down through the maternal lines).

Our interest now is pre civil registration and censuses. It is not information that can be found electronically on the internet which is why we are awaiting the early C19th baptism information from the actual registers for any further information that can be found there. Information not contained in the electronic indexes online.

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Valda
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #149 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 17:20 BST (UK) »
Hi

silly question .... fizzybubble said that the CRO would give out age of death for free.... would they do this over the phone or do you HAVE to email them?

I am going to order the death certs of George and Amelia Slack/Smith....you never know what may turn up. Maybe I should order their children's birth certs (those born between 1851 and 1861), just to see when he may have changed his occupationto hawker.

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #150 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 17:39 BST (UK) »
Hiya Deb,

CRO has to be emailed. If you consider the HUGE number of enquiries they get, there is no way they could answer everything by phone.

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Yorkshire - Thirlwall

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #151 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 17:47 BST (UK) »
Hi deb,

Who knows about email vs phone inf at the CRO - but email would at least give the recipient time to do an unpressured lookup!  And now fizzybubble has confirmed this.

I'm getting a bit grumpy with myself reading through this thread again and again  :D - but I think we did have some info re George's occupation (not to mention name!), and the time it changed, on various certs and censuses?  If only I'd realized this thread would become so complex I certainly would have made these people into a little subset on my genie program (TMG)  ;)

Let's wait and see what your friend finds (if anything) in the St Andrews Holborn baptisms - and then continue on.

All the very very best,

JAP

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #152 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 18:15 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,

Deb, it would be lovely if your lady can find George's baptism.

Re his occupation, I don't know if the birth certs would be different, but according to the baptismal records of all his children, he's put pedlar/hawker. in fact, the only time he's mentioned coachmaker is on his marriage cert and 1851 census! (see page 9).

What does everyone think of this entry as a possibility for George in 1841?

 HO107; Piece 146; Book: 1; Civil Parish: St Austell; County: Cornwall; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 13; Page: 19; Line: 8;
I know it says he was born in Ireland, but whose to say he didn't lie?!

Grose - Cornwall
Rice - Devon
Harris - Herefordshire
Bristow - London
Sadler - Yorkshire
Nye - London
Allen - Cornwall
Palmer - Cornwall
Chynoweth - Cornwall
Cowling - Cornwall