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Offline JAP

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #135 on: Monday 30 July 07 15:08 BST (UK) »
  ...  i have now removed all traces of this subject from my memory bank and computer
oops

A pity, as it truly is an interesting and fascinating thread.  And may yet have more twists and turns - who knows.

JAP

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #136 on: Tuesday 31 July 07 00:48 BST (UK) »
i will start from scratch
thanks
sylvia
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #137 on: Tuesday 31 July 07 11:06 BST (UK) »
just passing

 CARLYON surname cornwall

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1861
 
Amelia Slack 33 born Islington Middlesex 
George Slack 33 
George Slack 13
 Amalia Slack 11
John Slack 8
 Arthur Slack 10 
Charles Slack 6 
Clarissa Slack 1





1851 census st giles
George Smith 47
Amelia Smith 39  birth bloomsbury 
Emma E Smith 9 
Esther Smith 14 
Raymond G Smith 19
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1841 census
 Amelia Smith 30
  George Smith 30
Raymond Smith 9
Amelia Smith 4

just in case its been noted[sorry]
 
 



sylvia
 
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #138 on: Tuesday 31 July 07 14:09 BST (UK) »
On the 1861 census George Angus Slack and Amelia nee Gosson and their family were living in Kennington Lambeth. George was a hairdresser. The family were in Westminster on the 1851 census. George was aged 27 and gave his birthplace as Walworth (Southwark) Surrey.
On the 1841 census George was an apprentice to a hairdresser in Clerkenwell - he was one of 56 George Slacks who appear on the 1841 census index - though only 3 were in Middlesex at the time.

The 1851 census shows 8 George Smiths with wives who were called Amelia.

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #139 on: Tuesday 31 July 07 14:39 BST (UK) »
maidmarianoops,  What is the point you are making with the posting of that census information  ???  I'm puzzled ...

The mystery with which this thread began is spelled out in the very first post.

The original poster told us she had been searching for the parents of her Gggmother Mary (SMITH) PALMER b 1858.  She had located Mary (as SMITH) with her parents in the 1861 census in Cornwall; she had then located Mary's parents and some older siblings in the 1851 census in Cornwall as SLACK; she had then located the 1842 marriage of Mary's parents - George SLACK & Amelia KNORRTON; but she had been unable to trace George (whose occupation changed from coachmaker to hawker) or Amelia any further and she had been unable to find why the family changed its surname from SLACK to SMITH.

Much light has been shed on the mystery over the previous 9 pages (especially with the clarification of Amelia's maiden surname as CARNATON - variously spelled).

The relevant 1851 and 1861 census entries (in Cornwall) for George & Amelia and family were posted in the original post which began the thread.

The relevant 1871, 1881, and 1891 census entries (in Cornwall) were posted in Response #3.

And possibilities have been suggested for entries in the 1841 census for George and for Amelia before their 1842 marriage (in Cornwall).

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #140 on: Tuesday 31 July 07 15:56 BST (UK) »
the amelia smith and slack were born in middlesex not cornwall
sylvia
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #141 on: Tuesday 31 July 07 17:00 BST (UK) »
 ???

The parents of Mary SMITH who married John PALMER were George SLACK (or SMITH) and Amelia KNORTTON (CARNATON) who married in Cornwall in 1842.

George's birth place in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 Cornwall censuses (he died in 1872) was London.

Amelia's birth place in the five censuses held after her marriage to George in 1842 and prior to her death in 1894 was Cornwall (1851 - Falmouth, 1861 - Falmouth, 1871 - Kenwyn, 1881 - Truro, 1891 - Truro.

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #142 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 01:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Maidmarionoops,

Thanks for adding those searches, but we have found the George and Amelia we are looking for, in all the censuses from 1851 until their deaths, and we are 100% sure we have the correct people.

We have the right people, the only thing we haven't found out, as JAP pointed out is WHY the SLACK name changed to SMITH.

Are you also a descendant of George and Amelia?
Grose - Cornwall
Rice - Devon
Harris - Herefordshire
Bristow - London
Sadler - Yorkshire
Nye - London
Allen - Cornwall
Palmer - Cornwall
Chynoweth - Cornwall
Cowling - Cornwall

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #143 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 02:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Cousin

Julia...dahhhhhling....

I have been in touch with a friend of our Penfold family ... Bessie  Palmer= William Penfold. She is the friend of Millie who is a daughter Sophie Penfold (sister of my nan)...sorry confusing the issue here ...anyway ...this friend is in London and has offered to do look ups for me ...she is going on Thursday to find the baptismal record of our George Slack/Smith .... dec 1803 Holborn London ....maybe we will discover something new!!!!!

deb

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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