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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #99 on: Monday 09 October 06 11:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb, Britgirl and others

Valda is right - more relatives may find this site, easily, at any time in the future.  If you ever change your email address, you'll need to check back here every now and then!

These kind of "family reunions" ARE exciting, Deb.  It's part of the buzz we get with family history.  The other part, for me, is the detective work involved - it drags me in, everytime - it's the thrill of the chase!!   ;)

All the best

Peter

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« Reply #100 on: Tuesday 23 January 07 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

It's been a while since I have been to this post ... although Amelia Carnarton/Slack/ Smith is never far from my mind.

Today my Mother called regarding The famous Muscian ...Joseph Emidy.... I thought that this little tidbit was quite fabulous  and thought I would post just so that we may take another walk down  our Cornish mystery..... once again thanks to all the wonderfull Rootschat "detectives" who strolled those long ago streets of Truro.......


"A Musical Club Truro"

http://www.rootschat.com/links/015d/

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i hope this works ....LOL

best regards always

Deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #101 on: Saturday 27 January 07 01:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

Another interesting EMIDY link:

www.emidy.com

I have been tracing the descendants of Thomas Hutchins EMIDY and Margery CARNARTON.  Contact me if you are interested.

Cheers

Peter

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« Reply #102 on: Saturday 27 January 07 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter

Thanks so much for that link ...fascinating stuff!!

I see you are on another post trying to connect Sarah/Sally Libby to her aunt Margery Carnaton ... hopefully something pops up for you !!  ::)

Julia and I are still trying to find AMELIA Slack/smith whose children were adopted by my John PALMER and  Mary slack/smith (sister of Amelia,  whose parents were George Slack/Smith and Amelia CARNARTON ).

If you come across anything let me know LOL, I will be on the lookout for Sarah Libby  :)

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #103 on: Monday 12 February 07 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Greetings all, especially those of you out in the colonies ;D
I have recently started to research my family tree and can go back as far as George Smith/Slack (b1802 ish), my Great Great Grandfather. I live locally, Truro is only 20 minutes away, hence gravestones and the county records office are within easy reach.
This thread has given me insight into a glitch that has had you all perplexed, that of the origin of Amelia.
My father (80) remembers his father telling him of how the family name changed but I have so far not established why. As I said, I have only recently started delving into the family past, however, the work done by you so far has given me enough to look into for the next few months before I start on my maternal lineage. Then of course, there is my wifes family, my sisters husband..............................................hopefully before which I will have discovered drink or drugs.

Keep the flow going

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« Reply #104 on: Monday 12 February 07 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi  :)

How fabulous to hear from you.... please let us know how you are related. George Slack/Smith was my GG Grandfather too.

George Slack/smith and Amelia Carnarton had my great grandmother , Mary (who married John  Palmer) who had Bessie Palmer (who married William Penfold) who had my nan Violet Venie who had my mum Maureen who had me ...    ;D

can't wait for me info from you, especially someone who actually may be able to shed a little light on the name change .

regards
Deb

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 13 February 07 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Greetings Deb

The trail from George Slack to me is as follows:

George Slack(Smith) [ b Holborn] Changed between 1858/61, I suspect 1861)
         I
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George Smith [b Truro 1852/3] Don't have laptop to hand so can't be specific
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Ernest Smith [b Truro 1887]
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Lionel G J Smith [b Truro 1926]
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John L J Smith [ b 1953 St. Albans, Hertfordshire] (Grrrrrrr - missed out on being Cornish by birth)

So that is the lineage as far as I can track by word of mouth and family documents. My limited research so far has taken me to Kenwyn Church where I found and photographed several graves which tie in with the expanding list of names that I have. In addition there are more kin buried in Chacewater Churchyard, 5 miles NW of Truro where there are more of George Jnrs siblings. I never thought of looking for a surname change until I became stuck trying to find George Snr and the name Slack kept creeping into the equation.

I questioned my father on the matter and let slip the name Slack and he immediately opened up saying that his father, Ernest, once told him that the family name had changed but that Ernest had been reluctant to expand on the reasons why. (Time to break out the Sodium Pentathol and rubber hoses!)

I have booked a visit to the County Records Office, Truro, on Thursday morning, this week and will be looking for whatever the records there have to
offer. I am being accompanied by a lady who has been delving into her family tree for 10 years or more and can trace her family back to the mid 1500s, so I hope with her help, to find out more.

If there are any particular areas that you may wish me to delve into whilst I am there, please let me know. I shall try to obtain as much hard copy info as I can while I am there.

Meanwhile, I will continue to gather info, including photographs of the family (as far back as they go) and pictures of where they lived and their grave stones. I so far have found more than 200 individuals in the tree since 1802 and that is without looking at my Mother's side of the family.

Enough for now, I shall be back next week with more.

Regards,

HSD


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« Reply #106 on: Tuesday 13 February 07 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi HSD

Thanks so much for all the information . I think what everyone who has worked on unravelling this mystery wants to know is : WHY did George B 1802 decide to change the family name...

As one of the rootschatters here mentioned once , we can understand someone living in Cornwall moving to London , but vice versa seems rather strange. Maybe you can uncover records/newspaper articles or something that would give us the reason ...maybe bankruptcy or imprisonment !!  :o

Any other information on Amelia Carnarton would also be wonderful.

I would love to see some photos too!

regards
Deb

PS: what would my and Julia's  relationship be to you ?   
(Julia's ggrandmother and mine were sisters..,our Great great grandmother, Mary was your George's (b 1852 truro) sister. We all share the same GGG grandparents ...George and Amelia Slack/Smith  ;D )

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #107 on: Tuesday 13 February 07 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Well, I have just finished reading this whole thread - how fascinating!  And what time and effort has gone into this.  Unfortunately, the only thing I can add is to answer this for you:


PS: what would my and Julia's relationship be to you ?
(Julia's ggrandmother and mine were sisters..,our Great great grandmother, Mary was your George's (b 1852 truro) sister. We all share the same GGG grandparents ...George and Amelia Slack/Smith ;D )


Since you share a gg-grandmother, you and Julia are third cousins, and HSD is fourth cousin to both of you (one more generation back - common ggg-grandparents).  See this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin

Happy hunting!

MJP
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