Cornish Mystery

[deb usa]

Hi Cous 

I hope we get more info on our Georgie Boy    there is no way to tell if that's him in 1841, but the fact that he is in the St Austell area may be a good sign...

I wonder if Highspeeddeath (HSD) found any more relevant info .... , remember he seems to think that George Slack was still living in Holborn in 1841 with his first wife ... He also is the only one who has spoken to a LIVE Rellie, his dad, who said his dad (Ernest) knew of the name change but would not say why.....
 

ummm well I am trying hard to be patient  , hopefully Lorraine will send us all good info ....

deb

[deb usa]

Hi Everyone 

Back from 5 days at the beach.... I have heard from Lorraine..This is what she says..

"I searched the parish records for St Andrews Holborn and found the following entry

 

John son of William Slack and Ann said to be 7 years old

Charles son of William Slack and Ann said to be 3 years old

George son of William and Ann Slack said to be 3 months old

 

The baptism was on the date you said and the family were living in a place called Tash Court.

 

I have a Regency era map book of London and Tash Court is shown as a very small tenement type area in central Holborn.

I then searched marriages to see what I could find for William and Ann

 

I started from 1790 taking into account the fact that John  may have been born in 1796. I only found one possible

 

William SMITH from the parish of West Ham in the county of Essex married Ann CHANCE of the Parish of St Andrews at St Andrews Holborn on 4th November 1798 the witnesses were John and Sarah Davis.

 

There was nothing else that was even close.

 

When I have more time I will go and have another look, sorry this wasn’t much help

 

Lorraine"


Hopefully she can dig up more for us ....

deb

 

 

 

[Britgirl]

Hi Deb,

Interesting!!! I guess it didn't say in the records what William's profession was, or you would have mentioned it. I wonder why the IGI said George was aged 1? 

Strange that the name SMITH turns up again, but we have no reason to think that George's parents also changed their names.

I hope not, as I really don't want to start looking for SMITHS in London!!! 

[deb usa]

Hi Julia

I also noticed the age of George when he was christened.... but then again he never was consistant with his age in the census   

I have asked Lorraine to recheck to see if an occupation turns up somewhere!

I have also rechecked the 1841, looking for George's siblings, (in hopes that George may be around), I did find a Charles, about the right age living in London as a cabinet maker ... can't find any coach builders , but will recheck.

William Smith = Ann Chance, he was from Essex... where would we even start LOL

Deb

[rainyp5655]

Hello to you all

Thought it was time I introduced myself, I am the person whom Deb has mentioned in London, I have been doing Family research for a number of years and recently started doing a tree for my best friend. She is the granddaughter of Sophie Penfold and a very close cousin to Deb,

Deb has posted the result of my recent trip to the guildhall library and in answer to someones question, there was no occupation shown for William.

The marriage of William Smith and Ann Chance was the only marriage I could find where the bride and groom had the same name as the parents of the Slack/Smith boys. I hope it is not too much of a red herring. In the period that I looked at in Marriages and Births there were no other entries in the name of Slack which means the family were probably not local to that church, normally you would see all of the brothers and sister getting married and having families.

In my experience the fact that the three boys were baptised at the same time and when two were older normally implies that the family was new to that church or area so who knows where they came from. The other problem with that area is that there are so many churches, In fact one on most streets in the City of London and so they could have married or had other children baptised at a church around the corner and it would make it diffcult to find them.

Next time I have the chance to bunk off work early, I will go again and look in the next nearest churches to St Andrews to see if I can find anything. Will post again if I get anything new, In the meantime as long as you are not expecting a quick turnaround, I am about a 5 min walk from the Westminster City Archive and 4 tube stops from the City of London archives so I am always happy to look stuff up

Lorraine

[Britgirl]

Hi Lorraine,

Thank you for your help in this mystery.

I've been trying anything I can think of might help, but keep drawing blanks.   

The surname profiler website says that in 1881 the name SLACK was mostly concentrated in the Derbyshire area, and surrounding counties.

It might help in narrowing down where they came to London from.

[Gardengirl]

Hi to all,

I just surfed into this thread so I haven't had chance to read all 11 pages yet but have seen sufficient to jump in as I can link into the SLACK family mentioned living in London on a couple of the pages, they are on my husbands line which I researched for him a few yrs back.

In brief, his 3x gt-grandparents were

George Angus SLACK (hairdresser) = Amelia Gosson (see FreeBMD  Islington June Qt 1843)

their daughter was Amelia Elizabeth SLACK b. 02 March 1845 St Martin in the Fields, Westminster, London.

Amelia Elizabeth Slack married John James Evans 21st Nov 1869 Saint Anne Soho, Westminster. They had a daughter called Amelia Rose Evans:

Amelia Rose Evans married William Charles Wall 17th April 1892 St George the Martyr Queen Square, London. They had a son also William Charles Wall who was my husbands grandfather.

Hope this helps :-) I'd love to hear from any other descendants and can show a more detailed tree via GenesReunited.

best wishes, Val Wall.

[JAP]

Hi Gardengirl,

The family you mention has been discussed on this thread.

But no connexion has been found between it and the 'Cornish Mystery' SLACK/SMITH family.

If - after reading the 11 pages (and it's quite a complicated story!) - you are able to make a link I'm sure we'll all be fascinated.  Especially the descendants of George SLACK (later SMITH, a coachmaker and later hawker, born London) who married Amelia CARNATON (born Cornwall) in Cornwall in 1842 - but also all the rest of us who have been caught up in the 'Cornish Mystery'. 

Kind regards,

JAP

[Gardengirl]

Thanks Jap,

yes it's a complicated story and my head was spinning after only 4 pages, lol.

I did find the census info for my husbands Slack's in the thread so that was a nice little bonus, lookup's without asking hey! lol ;-)

I've no idea if there is a connection to the Cornwall Slack's, I haven't got much further than George the hairdresser, only recently returning to my husbands lines.

I do have a wonderful Huguenot line (du Hamel, Ang to Hammell) from Gwinear in Cornwall of my own so I'll be back to the Cornwall board soon

regards Val.