Eliza Isley Kelly

[Hazie]

Hello again.
Yes I am about at the same point as you.  I have actually found an entry on the National Archives site last night regarding William Kelly and he came out of the arm in 1814 so it must have been just after Eliza was born.

I tried to do a little reading up and apparently the wives of foot soliders did go with them but they were realy no more than skivies for them. 

The other question I am wondering is was his wife english or spanish?

I pass or should I say did pass Oxbridge cemetery every day when I or Michael visited each other whilst 'courting' he lived a couple of blocks away from it and both mothers still live very close to it and we pass it if we go from one mums to another mums.

Micheals connection - now this is even more complicated - is that Michaels mother was a Hampton who married a Hay who - so Michaels Grandmother was the product of a Robinson and Hay marring - so it so far. - now the complicated but -Michaels Great Grandmother was Eliza Isley Robinson whose parents were both Robinsons - Elizabeth Brown Robinson married Thomas Robinson - Can you imagin what problems I have had with this  one.   Elizabeth Brown Robinson's parents were Eliza Isley Kelly and Robert Robinson.  It is a nightmare and to cap it all I have 3 lots of Robinson in my family tree and one of michaels cusins has married a Robinson all different families. 

I have no probelms sending you my family tree that I have created I can send it in gencom format if that suits.


The people you were in contact with I think I have spoken too also they came from Stockton too and moved I think it is to New Zealand or Australia there surname is Owen.

I will have a look around about the Hart information. 

I might be going up home this week as I have a few days holiday planned I want to go into the archives and have a search.  If I can sort logitics of transport out - cars etc I will be going.  I will let you know o.

Hope to hear from you asap.

Hazel

[wobble]

Hi Hazel
have just emailed you my tree but not sure if the file will open for you. let me know if it hasnt worked and we will try snail mail!
as far as I know Eliza's mother was british as on the census it says "born in Spane of british parents".  she was married to Robert Robinson on the 24th of June 1830 and he was a butcher, and it seems that she had her father living with her until he died but I have not had much luck in tracing his death, have you?  what did you look at on the archives site? this researching is like a bug, you cant shake it off can you?

[wobble]

Hazel, just looked at the tree and your husbands' Elizabeth Robinson was the sister of My Eliza Isley Robinson (2 of Eliza Robinson nee Kelly's daughters) so we are definitely related somehow!

[Hazie]

Hello
Picked this up yesterday on the National Archvies site.

Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents WO 97/1240/129
WILLIAM KELLY Born SAINT NICHOLS, Durham Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 36 . WILLIAM KELLY Born SAINT NICHOLS, Durham Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 36 Royal Artillery: Kay - Kem The National Archives, Kew
Date range: 1799 - 1814.


I think this is our William.
I have e-mailed them to ask what I would get if I paid for this information.

I think it might cost £10.00 my friend has soemone who goes down theire on a regular basis - my firend works for the local archives department. Good to have friends in the right places.  She is at Nottingham at the oment watching Ice hockey so I will have to speak to her later .

It says he was born at Durham on that information.  Hart will be in Teeesside archives as well as in Durham so I might try and get there this weel to one or the other to search the parish records.  Again I have a friend who lives in Stockton who goes regularly and if she is going she will have a look for me.
I will e-mail her after this.

Where abouts do you live?
talk to you soon
Hazel.

[Allan Boro]

Hi, we are also interested in the parents, specifically the mother of Eliza Isley Kelly. Eliza's son, Henry Robinson (Boilersmith & Riveter, born 1835) is my fiancee's great great great grandfather. We know that William Kelly (Shoemaker, born 1786) served in the Peninsular war & that Eliza was born between 1812 & 1814 in 'Isley Blou',  of which we can find no info' of such a place, baffling is not the word. We also think that William met Eliza's mother in Spain during the war, the problem here is that servicemen were not allowed to bring back to England non British. It would be amazing if someone could fill in the missing jigsaw piece that is Eliza's mother.

Regards
Allan   

[Hazie]

Hello
I am getting a ittle confused here I have just found some mail from Wobble about an e-mail I was suppost to have received but haven;t got and I gather Allan you are a new person interested in ROBINSONS.

Help it was hard enough sorting the names out when I had 2 Robinsons marrying and all their offspring - there are offspring coming out of the woodwork now.

I noticed that Henry was a boilersmith - the other strange thing about all this is Michael - my otehr half his mother's grandfather was a Hay who married one of the Robinsons. Marmaduke Hay lived in the same street as Henry Robinson at one point and guess what - - -  Duke Hay had a boilersmith business.   I wonder if he worked for him. They would have been related Henry would hve been Marmadukes uncle by arriage - I think.

Hazel

[Allan Boro]

Hi Hazie, yes I am a new member to this rootschat & my fiancee Kathryn Hudson is a descendant of Henry Robinson. The reason why we have started to look into the family tree is because our daughter was born in January of this year & we decided to call her Islay (a slight variation of this name Isley).

Regards

Allan

[Hazie]

Hell Allan
I think that is great.  I began mine  after my daughter was born for something to do as I was not working.  I had wanted to begin doing it for ages but not time I had given my daughter my maiden name and the name Jane and it was not until a few years later I found out that it was a common thing to do  - put maiden names in the middle of full names and my family were doing it a centary ago plus I had forgotten my grnadmothers name was Jane.

Which one of Henry's children does  your girlsfriend descend from I have beenlooking and cannot find Henry after 1881 - did he die he would have only been young he was 47 in 1881

I have just been checking the Tees Valley records for the marriages of Eliza and Mary to work there marriages out.
Regards
Hazel

[Allan Boro]

Hi Hazie, Katy is the descendent of Eliza Robinson, a shopkeeper who sold fish on Stockton Quay, born 1866 who married Joseph Gibson Rowntree, born 1865, a ship platers helper who died 1935. Their daughter Eliza Rowntree married Bernard Riley whose son was Katy's grandpa also called Bernard Riley.
Who were Marmadukes parents?

Regards

Allan