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Offline lisa78

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Re: Can you help me find Convict ancestor?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 February 09 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi my name is Lisa,
i think i have some information about James Flower from Bedminster who was transported on the Bangalore in 1847, he was tryed along with his partner in crime Edward Milkins but am sorry to say it was not for the crime of sheep stealing they where both given 7 years for there crimes. my conection to the Flower family is through James sister caroline who married James Parsons my relative. In 1881 Caroline Flower senior was in prison in Milton Keynes and Johnathan was in prison in Portland Dorset in 1861.

I hope this has helped

Lisa

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Re: Can you help me find Convict ancestor?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi lisa,
Yes we have the same family.
I have Caroline Adela 1837-1887 married to James Parsons in Clifton in 1859, and she was his second wife.I have him as dying in Pontypool in 1895.Caroline was my 2x grandfathers sister.
regarding James Flower and Edward Milikin, I think they were the two who were transported for highway robbery, (see my messages,) and according to the prison records, it reads that Edward was a collier, aged 30, 5'7" sandy hair and grey eyes. "Having feloniously attacked and beat in danger of his life and violently stealing his property from his persons against the statute native of Bedminster,John Tucker Edward  was married.
James has the same charges.
james was an engine smith for Stallard and Stoddard .
they both had orderley conduct whilst in prison.
if you would like any further Flower info, please e mail me privately and I will see what I can do.
There is still some confusion on which ship the men went out on.
Sheila xx
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James Flower - sheep stealing
« Reply #20 on: Monday 31 January 11 04:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sheila

I did a little happy-dance  :D when I came across your post... I'm researching my partner's line and was looking into OLDFIELD (John).  According to his conviction info in the Bristol sessions on 10th April 1849, he was tried for "sheep-stealing before convicted of felony" and from what I can discern, his partners in crime were James Flower (convicted and sentenced to 'Transport 7 years') and Jonathon Flower (found not guilty).

John Oldfield was transported to WA Australia for his crime, arriving Fremantle 1851.

I'm new to this family research stuff, so not sure if I'm reading the register correctly....Am I right in connecting the Flower boys with John Oldfield?   :-\

If so, I'd love to hear more about the story behind the sheep-stealing :)

Cheers, Kathryn
WA, Australia