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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1710 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I've only just stumbled across this board, so I'm not entirely sure how this offer to look up marriages works, but...

I've recently hit a bit of a brick wall. I'm looking for a John Bradbury (or Bredbury) born circa 1760 who married a Hannah. Her surname might be Sidebottom. He is from the Hyde/Newton area so they probably married at Mottram, sometime around 1780. The only problem is that there are a lot of John Bradburys knocking around at that time and an equal number of Hannah Sidebottoms. I've so far managed to find three John Bradburys and Hannahs/Anns (no surnames given, annoyingly) who could fit the bill and a John who married an Ann Sidebottom in 1778, but their son's baptism record definitely gives the mother's name as Hannah, not Ann. The Sidebottom bit I'm guessing at since their son named his first child Sidebottom Bradbury (what a wonderful name!).

Any help you can give would be hugely appreciated.

Thank-you,
David

Hi David and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

Some possibles for you:
John BRADBURY, p Stockport m Ann SIDEBOTTOM 24 Feb 1778 at Macclesfield
John BRADBURY, weaver m Hannah HORSFIELD, sp 11 Feb 1779 at Stockport
John BRADBURY, weaver m Ann WARD, sp 4 Jan 1785 at Stockport

There are no matches for John BREDBURY marriages.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1711 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jean,

Thanks very much for your help (and the welcome). The Ann Ward marriage is too late I think (son Randal was born in 1783). The other two I'd come across already but didn't know where the marriages took place so that might help. Of course, either could be feasible, but I think the Sidebottom one is more likely (I simply can't imagine any reason why one would give one's child the first name Sidebottom unless it was a family name!). I suppose she might have been christened Hannah but called herself Ann?

Thanks again,
David

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1712 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 17:59 BST (UK) »
Jean

Could you see if you can find a marriage for Samuel Robinson in Mobberley around 1770-1775?

Thanks, Kate

Sorry Kate,

No matches for those dates or a Samuel anywhere on the index.

Jean

Sorry to take so long to respond. My work has been keeping me swamped. Thanks for looking for me.

Kate
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1713 on: Thursday 02 April 09 00:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help me with this one!  I have been told that my Great Great Grandfather was named William Constantine,  a silk top-hat manufacturer from Scotland (Glasgow). He married Elizabeth ?? They had a daughter named Mary Constantine in 1848.  I have been able to find a William Consterdine and Elizabeth in the 1841 census, living at Bredbury Green, Stockport. and neighbours James & Ann Cock and family living next door.  I believe Ann was Elizbbeth's sister.  I think their maiden names was Williamson.  William Constantine passed on by the 1851 census.
Could you find out  anything about William Constantine & Elizabeth??? e.g. fathers names, occupations, and mothers names etc.  I would be so greatful for anything you may find.  I have come to a brick wall on this one.  I cannot find anything about William.
Thanks!  KitKat


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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1714 on: Thursday 02 April 09 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

Hope you can sort out my confusion please.

I have a James Ward who married a Charlotte possibly abt 1809, this is when their first child was born and christened at Poynton. Their other children afterwards were christened at Worth. I had found a submitted record to say that James had married Charlotte Tomkinson, 1809, Prestbury, and being quite new to this at the time took it as 'red'. In 1837 Charlotte Ward married John Rowlinson, James must have died, but on the cheshire pilot site it states her father was George Brown. I cannot find any record of Charlotte Brown marrying James Ward a collier.

Many thanks

Evie

Added: I am assuming this is the same Charlotte as she is living with John in the 1841 and son George Ward at Worth Clough.
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1715 on: Thursday 02 April 09 13:48 BST (UK) »
I have information about the following being married at Prestbury - dates 1800 - 1821.   Possibly 1817.

David YATES and Sarah/sally GAR(T)SIDE

Can this be confirmed, please?

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Reiver

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1716 on: Thursday 02 April 09 18:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help me with this one!  I have been told that my Great Great Grandfather was named William Constantine,  a silk top-hat manufacturer from Scotland (Glasgow). He married Elizabeth ?? They had a daughter named Mary Constantine in 1848.  I have been able to find a William Consterdine and Elizabeth in the 1841 census, living at Bredbury Green, Stockport. and neighbours James & Ann Cock and family living next door.  I believe Ann was Elizbbeth's sister.  I think their maiden names was Williamson.  William Constantine passed on by the 1851 census.
Could you find out  anything about William Constantine & Elizabeth??? e.g. fathers names, occupations, and mothers names etc.  I would be so greatful for anything you may find.  I have come to a brick wall on this one.  I cannot find anything about William.
Thanks!  KitKat

Hi Kitkat,

There is this marriage:

Jas COCK m Ann WILLIAMSON 22 Nov 1829 at Cheadle

William CONSTANTINE m Elizabeth WILLIAMSON in 1840 at Cheadle St Mary - see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk.

I'd suggest that the birth certificate of Mary in 1848 and the marriage certificate from 1840 would help you find out some more information about William's father.

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1717 on: Thursday 02 April 09 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

Hope you can sort out my confusion please.

I have a James Ward who married a Charlotte possibly abt 1809, this is when their first child was born and christened at Poynton. Their other children afterwards were christened at Worth. I had found a submitted record to say that James had married Charlotte Tomkinson, 1809, Prestbury, and being quite new to this at the time took it as 'red'. In 1837 Charlotte Ward married John Rowlinson, James must have died, but on the cheshire pilot site it states her father was George Brown. I cannot find any record of Charlotte Brown marrying James Ward a collier.

Many thanks

Evie

Added: I am assuming this is the same Charlotte as she is living with John in the 1841 and son George Ward at Worth Clough.

Hi Evie,

The marriage you are referring to is this:

James WARD, Collier of Poynton m Charlotte TOMKINSON of Worth 20 Jul 1808 at Prestbury

It seems to fit with the information you already have about the Poynton baptism and connection with Worth.  I can't see an earlier marriage either but:

1.  The familysearch pilot record that you have found is a transcription - so could be an error so it would be worth trying to see the original.  You could send for the certificate, the marriage is on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
2.  Charlotte was illegitimate and George Brown was her father.  This could be difficult to prove.

There is a Charlotte TOMKINSON baptised at Adlington, Cheshire 14 Mar 1790 - the image is available on the familysearch pilot site.

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1718 on: Thursday 02 April 09 18:19 BST (UK) »
I have information about the following being married at Prestbury - dates 1800 - 1821.   Possibly 1817.

David YATES and Sarah/sally GAR(T)SIDE

Can this be confirmed, please?

Regards
Reiver

Hi Reiver,

There is this one:

David YATES, Gent of Sutton m Sally GREENWOOD widow of Saddleworth, Yorks 6 Mar 1817 at Prestbury by licence.

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)