Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837

[judith 4]

Hi Peter

No I havent cracked it as yet.

Here are the details on the marriage certificate, Joseph Ankers 21 Bachelor, Labourer Bridge St Chester Father William Ankers Shoemaker.

Catherine Quin Bridge St, Spinster, Bridge St, Father John Quin Joiner.  Marriage Date Sept 1 1856 St Mary Chester.

I found them on the 1881 Census, they are living there with there children it was the name of Kezia that helped me as my father remembers going to her home for tea when he was a child.

Not found them anywhere else as I have been unable to look at any other census.

[Chris Cherry]

Hi Chris
I would be grateful if you could offer any help on the following:
William Dooley B: 29 Jun 1862 at 4 Livingston St Birkenhead. Father John Dooley Boilermaker journeyman, Mother Alice Fielding. I am trying to find the marriage of John & Alice but it is possible they came from Ireland.  Also, William married Mary Ann Smith, she was born 1865 Bedminster Bristol, but I don't know where they married, although some children were born Liverpool.

Many thanks Chris

[peterbennett]

Hi Chris

          With regards to the Mary and William marriage
can you give me an idea of where you have searched upto now. I did find them on the 1891 census living in Liverpool with no children, If the couple were married and its a possibility that they didn't , it would be best to work backwards from 18891, or from the birthdate of there first child if born before 1891 using the GRO index of BMD's.
          I have very little knowledge of Irish family history, but there are some very good people who I am sure would point you in the right direction to finding John and Alice, may I suggest that you post again to the common room headed lookup/how to ? Irish birth.

peterbennett
     

[peterbennett]

Hi Peter

No I havent cracked it as yet.

Here are the details on the marriage certificate, Joseph Ankers 21 Bachelor, Labourer Bridge St Chester Father William Ankers Shoemaker.

Catherine Quin Bridge St, Spinster, Bridge St, Father John Quin Joiner.  Marriage Date Sept 1 1856 St Mary Chester.

I found them on the 1881 Census, they are living there with there children it was the name of Kezia that helped me as my father remembers going to her home for tea when he was a child.

Not found them anywhere else as I have been unable to look at any other census.

Hi Judith
            According to the IGI parish records (not complete ) there are two possibles for Joseph born around 1835 in Hargrave but neither have a William as father. the reason for mentioning this should become clear further on.

      In the 1881 census which you have, states Joseph 43 b Hargrave living with family in the township of Foulk Stapleford,
      As yet I dont have details of or access to the 71 or 61 census's.
So looking for Joseph on the 1851, I found on
folio 206 HO107- 2171 Joseph Ankers 15 farm servant born Tattenhall , right or wrong ? no others found in the area.
    1851 HO 107-2171 folio 158 Hatton Heath Saighton
William Ankers  head 38 master shoe maker  b. Tattenhall
Mary       ~        wife  39                                  b. Malpas
Elizabeth  ~      daug  9        scholar               b. Hargreave
John         ~       son    7                                  b.   ~
Thomas    ~       son    3                                  b.   ~
Emma       ~      daug   6 months                     b. Saighton

It would seem that this family lived in Hargreave at least as far back as 1842. There were no other William Ankers in the area.

1841 census HO107-90-32 folio 7 Foulk Stapleford

William Ankers  28  occupation unreadable  born in county
Mary        ~       28                                            ~        ~
George    ~       10                                            ~        ~
Sarah      ~         5                                            ~        ~
Joseph    ~         3                                            ~        ~
Samuel    ~        1                                             ~        ~

No other William and Mary Ankers found in the area.
If this is your Joseph born c 1837 then there should be a ref on the Cheshire BMD and yes there are two born in same year 1837 both in Tattenhall. these should be investigated in order to confirm parentage.
The IGI SEARCH shows as mentioned 2 Josephs
1) christoning July 9 1937 Father George Mother Mary
2)          ~       Aug    1935    ~      Richard   ~       Ann

These obviously because of the differant parents are not your Joseph but they do serve to complicate things on census's.

Without the 1861 and 1871 census's it is difficult to follow things through with any certainty.

Hope you can make some sense of it all, if not let me know.
will get back later with info on Catherine Quinn.

regards

peterbennett

Hi Judith                         29/5/04

  Just found another Ankers family living in Chester 1841, it might or might not be one of yours, but thought I had better not leave it ,you never know.

HO 107-130-7 folio 5 St. Anns Street St.Oswalds Parish Chester

Joseph Ankers   35    occupation ?          born in county
Elizabeth   ~      35                         not      ~         ~
Selina        ~      13                          ~        ~         ~
Emma        ~      11                          ~        ~         ~
Charles     ~         9                                    ~         ~
Nathaniel  ~         7                                    ~         ~
William      ~         5                                    ~         ~

peterbennett
 

[judith 4]

Thank you Peter for all your help, I will get back to you as soon as I can find out anymore info.

[lidgett]

Peterbennett

Hi Peter

Can you look on the census records you have for 1841/1851 for Hargrave and Huxley for John Lidgett b1812 (wife Elizabeth) for details of their children.  I only know of Jonathan b 1839 and Charles b1842.  Only Jonathan appears on IGI, Charles is my GT Grandfather.

Thanks

[peterbennett]

Hi Judith
 here is the 1841 census details for John Quinn Parkgate Gt.Neston
HO 107-125-5 folio 11

John               head 40   born Ireland
Jane               wife   45    ~     in county
Benjamin        son    15    ~          ~
Henry             ~        12   ~           ~
Eliza               daug    0    ~           ~

no Catherine Ann.

The 1851 census shows for Parkgate road Gt.Neston
HO 107-2173-folio 95

John Quinn   head   50    ag/lab    born   Ireland
Jane    ~       wife    55                    ~      Neston Cheshire

again no Catherine Ann

I did think it may be the wrong family so
I did a search of the 1851 census of Chester and surrounding districts with again no sign of Catherine Ann.

Angela (fifer) searched the Neston area 1851 for me, again no Catherine Ann.

I will keep a lookout for the missing one.

regards

peterbennett

[Chris Cherry]

Hi Peter
Many thanks for your reply.  I have looked on 1837 online, back from 1891 when first child (that I know of) was born, but no joy.  I suppose it is possible they didn't marry, although Williams birth cert gives mother as Mary Ann Dooley formerly Smith.  Maybe she was telling fibs!!

Anyway, thanks for trying
Chris

[peterbennett]

Hi Chris
           
          Were they or wern't they ? I had expieriance of the same thing with a family member of mine ,back in 1891 census they were Mr and Mrs Bennett, and Mr and Mrs Bennett again in 1901 census having had four children in between. I eventualy found there marriage in 1906!!
So it seems they were not the only ones.

peterbennett