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John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« on: Sunday 03 October 04 02:57 BST (UK) »
I have just discovered this list - hope someone may have some ideas for further searches for me.  My grandfather John Wilkinson Barker b. 1855, married in Charters Towers in 1900 but I have been unable to find his arrival in Australia. His death certificate does not show his length of time in Aust. - maybe he was a stow-a-way? Would there have been any other way he could have arrived in Aust.? Both his parents were dead by 1872 so the family has assumed he came to Australia soon after.  We found one John Barker aged 19 arriving in Sydney in 1874 but the records show Cambridgeshire and he was from Yorkshire.  Are these records accurate?
Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Del

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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 October 04 08:25 BST (UK) »
Censuses in the UK are taken every 10 years,have you tried an appeal to see if he was here in 1861 and 71?
What were his parents names- or brothers and sisters?
And where exactly in Yorkshire did he come from?
Also his exact DOB would be handy.

Not promising anything but maybe I(or someone ;)) could find out when he disappeared from the UK records.

Carol
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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 October 04 02:59 BST (UK) »
Del

I'm not sure what record you found - but if it is a scan of an original shipping list, the information would have been provided by the immigrant, so it would be accurate to the extend of his own knowledge. If it is a transcription, there can be transcription errors. I live in Qld & occasionally visit the archives, so will add your name to my list of people to check. I haven't had alot of luck with the Qld shipping lists but live in hope - I probably need to improve my search skills. If you can narrow the date range as suggested by Carol, this would no doubt help the search. (If you live in Brisbane, you could try the archives yourself - They have a large shipping index )

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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 October 04 05:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Del

I found found a John W Barker arriving in Brisbane Oz on November 10 1883 he was aged 25 and was a passenger on the Kincardineshire.
??? any good??
cheers
Janet  :)
King, Tinkler & Fountain- Cambridge/Hunts area
Fitzgerald Maxwell - Cavan Ireland
Ridley - Northumberland
Cragg Metcalfe Chapelhow Dent - Westmorland
Kellet, Wrigley,Tattersall, Thornber, Billington, Bolton, Hornby, Walmsely, Edmundson - Lancashire
Smith, Calver Powley- Norfolk

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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 October 04 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Janet

Did u find that on-line or at the archives? I am still looking for a few unassisted arrivals to Queensland so any search suggestions would be appreciated.

Trish
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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 October 04 21:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish

I volunteer at my local LDS family history centre at Redcliffe and they have index books for the info held at the archives. It just gives the name age and arrival date in Oz.

If you would like to send me a message with the details I will see what I can find for you.

Cheers
Janet  :)
King, Tinkler & Fountain- Cambridge/Hunts area
Fitzgerald Maxwell - Cavan Ireland
Ridley - Northumberland
Cragg Metcalfe Chapelhow Dent - Westmorland
Kellet, Wrigley,Tattersall, Thornber, Billington, Bolton, Hornby, Walmsely, Edmundson - Lancashire
Smith, Calver Powley- Norfolk

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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 October 04 21:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Del

You never answered my earlier question of the 7th October.
Where exactly was he born in Yorkshire,what date,and do you have any other useful info about his family.parents brothers and sisters names etc.

All will help to follow him through over here and give us a pretty good clue as to when he left England.

Waiting for your reply to get going on yet another mystery,  ;)

Carol
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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 November 04 06:03 GMT (UK) »
Sorry everyone, I didn't mean to be rude but a storm took out my computer!  Back to catching up now.
Thanks for all those replies.
These are the details for John Wilkinson Barker I have so far.
1881 census  then aged 26 - a few which 'could' be John W., one in Skipton, another with a mother 'Margaret' I have ruled out. Impossible to prove.
1871 census - then aged 16 - unable to find.  His father Abel had remarried and is living in Town St. Armley with new wife Martha and her two children.  His sister Mary is living with John Wilkinson also in Town St. Armley.
1861 census -  then aged 6 -living inFar Fold with father Abel, Mother Ellen, sister Mary.

John was born 29 Sept 1855, Bramley, Wortley, father Abel Barker, Mother Ellen (Wilkinson).
On his death certificate, which should show how long he had been in Australia - blank!  He would never talk of his early years in Australia.
He married in 1900 in Charters Towers, Sarah Binns.  I have found Mining Leases in the name of John Barker, presumably his as his occupation on his marriage certificate is 'cyanider'.
Thanks again for all those replies.  Hope this helps. Really appreciate your interest.
Cheers, Del

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Re: John Wilkinson Barker -arrival in Aust.?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janet,
My sister had found the John W. Barker you found on the Kincardinshire and when we checked it further found he had a wife Ellen who died enroute and a son Arthur. His birthdate is 1858 but I'm sure mistakes were made and it doesn't rule it out.  If it is our John W. we certainly didn't know he had another wife and we are trying to follow this through as well!
Just like a detective novel isn't it!
Thanks for your help.
DelB