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Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« on: Saturday 02 October 04 08:04 BST (UK) »
Have been staring at page after page of the 1861 Devon census looking for my family of Kingwells and a related line of Kessell. After looking at a couple of hundred pages (actually I think it is more like a couple of thousand ... I am in denial  :)) I have come to the conclusion that these people must have been abducted by aliens or out in the middle of nowhere having a gossip when the census was taken.   :-\

Does anyone have any idea of where to find a street map of Plymouth from about the 1850s on? Did find one but the more i enlarged it to read the names on the streets the less i could read. I want to be able to highlight the streets that my ancestors lived in to get an idea of the areas that i should look more closely at before I decide that they weren't in Plymouth in 1861.

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Jaki
<i>OK Charles Henry Kingwell when did you arrive in Australia????</i><br /><b>Coates</b> - Warwickshire, Staffordshire??<br /><b>Hall</b> - Warwickshire, Yorkshire<br /><b>Hirst</b> - Yorkshire<br /><b>Kingwell, Bulley, Bunce</b> - Devon<br /><b>Sample</b> - Northumberland, Durham<br /><b>Shipp</b> - Gloucester<br /><b>MacGillivray, Grant, Forbes, McBean</b> - Scotland

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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 October 04 08:10 BST (UK) »
I'd like the same thing but of Leeds in 1841  :-\
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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 October 04 18:43 BST (UK) »
Have you tried www.village-atlas.com
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
Kent: Beer
Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
East London: Middleton, Gower, O'Farrell, Smith, Weston

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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 October 04 19:31 BST (UK) »
Hey Fitty -  I live in Leeds - where are you looking for ?
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.uk

Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary


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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 October 04 19:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Jaki cheryle.f here i,m sitting doing nothing in particular at the moment....again,do you have first names for the kingwells that your looking for.I could have a scout for you and see if i come up with anything.Sometimes you can be staring at something for hours and not even see it...i know i've been there. I cant promise anything but a fresh pair of eyes and all that....and it's good practice for me.I may get to be a veteran yet. 
mussellwhite, musselwhite,curtis, grey or gray,bundy,moody, lawrence  and now Webb   in wiltshire,hampshire and dorset.
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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 October 04 21:06 BST (UK) »
Jaki
If you will send me your email address I will scan to you a large town plan of Plymouth in 1899. It is much too large to post on this site. I will not be able to do this before Tuesday by the way.
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 October 04 22:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Cheryle

That would be great if you could have a look.

This is the information I have in 1851. They were at 6 Coxside Green.

Richard B. KINGWELL   Head   M   M   35   Plymouth, Devon   Printer and Glazier
Sarah KINGWELL   Wife   M   F   34   Plymouth, Devon   
Charles H. KINGWELL   Son   U   M   6   Plymouth, Devon   
William J. KINGWELL   Son      M   6   Plymouth, Devon   
Ellen J. KINGWELL   Daur      F   1   Plymouth, Devon   

In 1881 this is what I have. They were at 8 Vintry St

 Sarah KINGWELL      Wife (Head)            M      Female    63     Plymouth, Devon, England     
 Frederick KINGWELL     Son   U   Male   24   Plymouth, Devon, England   Seaman


I have Charles Henry's birth certificate and they were at 22 Lower St in 1844

As Richard was a Painter I found what I believe to be more addresses for the family in the Historical Directories.

1852 – 3 Higher St Plymouth (1852 Directory of Plymouth, Stonehouse, Devonport, Stoke and Moricetown)
1864 – 3 Salem Place Plymouth (1864 Directory of Plymouth, Stonehouse, Devonport, Stoke and Moricetown)

Looks as if they moved around Plymouth a lot.

Thanks

Jaki
<i>OK Charles Henry Kingwell when did you arrive in Australia????</i><br /><b>Coates</b> - Warwickshire, Staffordshire??<br /><b>Hall</b> - Warwickshire, Yorkshire<br /><b>Hirst</b> - Yorkshire<br /><b>Kingwell, Bulley, Bunce</b> - Devon<br /><b>Sample</b> - Northumberland, Durham<br /><b>Shipp</b> - Gloucester<br /><b>MacGillivray, Grant, Forbes, McBean</b> - Scotland

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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 October 04 00:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Jaki,
Just saw your info.
ref addresses,
although I dont have access to any of the census
Higher Street,there was a place later called Higher Street Flats,
also Salem Street Flats,
I also notice you are interested in the names Bulley and Bunce,those names are still around in Plymouth,Devon.
I have a Bulley in my tree.
Also Coxside Green,havent heard the green bit,must be before my time,
but Coxside is not too far away,from the other addresses.
I will have a dig around for you in the coming week,
talk soon,
regards
trish
DRAKE...Plymouth.Devon
LAKEY....Plymouth.Devon.
WEEKES.Plymouth.Devon.
MARTIN...Minehead.Somerset.
WEBBER..Watchet/Williton Somerset
STRONG...Minehead.Somerset.
SMITH......Minehead.Somerset.
HART........Leeds.Yorkshire.
WEIR.......Ireland.Liverpool
BROWN....Liverpool.
WRIGHT...Liverpool



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Re: Street Map - Plymouth Devon - 1850 on
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 October 04 04:26 BST (UK) »
Hi bennett

Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

The Bulley in my tree was Sarah Bulley born about 1817 in Plymouth. She married someone White/Waite before marrying Richard Kingwell in about 1840. Wonder if there is any connection?

Jaki
<i>OK Charles Henry Kingwell when did you arrive in Australia????</i><br /><b>Coates</b> - Warwickshire, Staffordshire??<br /><b>Hall</b> - Warwickshire, Yorkshire<br /><b>Hirst</b> - Yorkshire<br /><b>Kingwell, Bulley, Bunce</b> - Devon<br /><b>Sample</b> - Northumberland, Durham<br /><b>Shipp</b> - Gloucester<br /><b>MacGillivray, Grant, Forbes, McBean</b> - Scotland