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Offline Noells

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Vicar of Norton help please
« on: Saturday 04 March 06 01:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
I am trying to help a friend here in Australia who is new to both genealogy and computers.

We have found her ancestor in the 1881 census

John Ridley Head of household aged 52 occupation Vicar of Norton.

In the household his wife - Frances Ridley aged 55 maiden surname possibly Antrobus
Son Frank Ridley aged 18 occupation Solicitors Articled Clerk and daughter Florence Ridley aged 10 scholar plus three servants.

My friend is descended from the son Frank.

Could anyone help us locate maybe what Church? The address on the census is The Vicarage, Norton, Durham, England.

We would also like to track this family in the census but have not been able to locate the family on the 1861,1871 or 1891 census on Ancestry.com.

We have possible marriage for John Ridley and frances Antrobus in June quarter 1860 and possible births for Francis in Dec quarter 1862 and Florence dEc quarter 1870 ( these from free BMD)

Prior to sending to England for these certificates we would like to be able to find them on the census and would also really like some more detail about his time as Vicar of Norton.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, as we are not sure where to go from here.

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Re: Vicar of Norton help please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 March 06 08:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello from a very cold but sunny day in Co Durham. I have a list of the vicar's of Norton-on Tees and it says that the vicar was John Ridley 1870 and followed by L J Mortimer in 1886. In the graveyard there is a cross (broken) In memory of John Ridley priest for 16 years vicar od d. June 11 1886 age 58 years.  So going by those dates he should be on the 1871 census for Norton-on Tees. (near Stockton-on Tees) Adamand

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 March 06 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Here is the site for St Mary's at Norton on Tees.
http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk/

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Re: Vicar of Norton help please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 March 06 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Noells

Because John has MA after his name Ancestry transcribers have indexed the family's surname as A!

1871 Census

RG10/4901  Folio 150  Page 31  Sch 164
Vicarage, Norton

John RIDLEY MA Head Mar 42 Vicar Cumberland Carlisle
Frances RIDLEY Wife Mar 45 Cheshire Bollington
John Brooke RIDLEY Son 9 Scholar Lancashire Worsthorne
Francis RIDLEY Son 8 Scholar Lancashire Worsthorne
Edward Hope RIDLEY Son 5 Scholar Cheshire Cheadle
Philip Walton RIDLEY 2 Cheshire Cheadle
Florence Grey RIDLEY Dau 6m Durham Norton
Mary RAWSON Serv Unm 25 Head Nurse Cumberland Carlisle
Jane ?MUDD Serv Unm 22 Cook York Marton
Mary BOULD Serv Unm 21 Housemaid Derbyshire Rodsley
Mary MUDD Serv Unm 17 Under Nurse York Smeaton
Henry BARRETT Serv 12 Page Boy Cheshire Cheadle



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Re: Vicar of Norton help please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 March 06 17:10 GMT (UK) »
I went to look him up in my 1865 coppy of Crockford's Clerical Directory.  He was not in Norton at that time.   However, looking at the birth places of his children he was in Worsthorne for quite some time.   In 1865 the curate at Worsthorne, Burnley  was "W Ridley"   no other details.  May be no connection but it is an odd coincidence.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 March 06 17:18 GMT (UK) »
1861 census RG9 3074 F25 p9
Worsthorne with Hurstwood
John Ridley Hd 32 Curate of Worsthorne b Kirklinton Cumberland
Fanny wi 34 b Turner Heath Cheshire
Jane Bowman serv 38 b Cockermouth Cumberland

That proves my theory!   Always pleasing to be right!
Andrea

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 March 06 18:07 GMT (UK) »
1851 census HO107 1536 folio 58
13 Hoxton Square Shoreditch  Middlesex
William Hinson 35 Ireland Head Married priest of the Anglican Church
Margaret I (or J) Hinson 29  Cheshire,  Wife  Married
Mary Antrobus Hinson 6 Cheshire,  Daughter 
Herick Antrobus Hinson 5  Cheshire,  Son   
Margaret Hinson 3 mths  London, Daughter   
Frances Antrobus 25  Cheshire,  Visitor   Landed Proprietor
Mary E Antrobus 24  Cheshire,  Visitor  Landed Proprietor
Margaret Carpenter 25 Hampshire,  Servant 
Anne Williams 27  Hampshire,  Servant
Catherine Bone 24  Hampshire,  Servant 

HO 107 2428 folio 4
Rectory Stapleton  Cumberland   
John Hope 60 Irthington, Cumberland, Head Married Rector of Stapleton
Mary Hope 53 Crosscanonby, Cumberland,  Wife Married rector's wife
George Hope 18  Stapleton, Cumberland,  Son  Rector's son Student
Harrison Hope 15  Stapleton, Cumberland, Son  Rector's son student
Mary Agnes Hope 11  Stapleton, Cumberland, Daughter Rector's daughter student
John Ridley 22  Kirklington, Cumberland, Nephew Student of Trinity Dublin
Mary Ridley 18 Kirklington, Cumberland,  Niece Visitor
Margaret Murray 22  Scotland House Servant 

Stapleton Marriages Transcripts 1813 to 1839
23rd March 1833 William HOPE Bachelor of Kirklinton & Mary PHILLIPS Spinster of Stapleton married by Licence Witnesses were Walton Ridley James Phillips Susanna Hope Charles Phillips

IGI

JOHN RIDLEY 
Christening:  01 MAR 1829   Kirklinton, Cumberland
Father:  WALTON RIDLEY 
Mother:  MARGARET 

Siblings

GEORGE RIDLEY
Christening: 16 JAN 1831 Kirklinton, Cumberland

MARY RIDLEY
Christening: 23 NOV 1832 Kirklinton, Cumberland
 
JOSEPH RIDLEY
Christening: 07 MAY 1837 Kirklinton, Cumberland

Possible father

WALTON RIDLEY 
Christening:  16 APR 1800   Kirkoswald, Cumberland
Father:  JOHN RIDLEY 
Mother:  MARY WALTON 

Regards

Valda


 
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Re: Vicar of Norton help please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 March 06 00:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

thank you all so much, I am overwhelmed by all the responses.

I will now take the time to read them all properly, but wanted to immediately thank you all. My friend will be absolutely delighted.

Noells
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Re: Vicar of Norton help please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 March 06 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

I have emailed your replies to my friend and she is also absolutely delighted.  It will obviously take us a couple of days to sort all the info out, but in the meantime,
could I please get some clarification on a couple of points?

The church where John Ridley was vicar was St. Mary's at Norton - on Tees?

Do you think that in the 1861 census he was married to a first wife? Namely Fanny Turner?

I had found on IGI children of a Walton Ridley and Margaret Hope, so it seems highly likely this is our John Ridley's father?

It is hot and dry in Oz today, so I hope you are all not too cold on the other side of the world.


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