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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #144 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 22:17 GMT (UK) »
i'm looking and not finding anything
 ::)

not even Henry Cox b. Milton Keynes only Henry Howe b. Milton Keynes at right time
and thus am confusing myself

so i am turning off now
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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #145 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 22:26 GMT (UK) »


 If Frederick and Margaret's son was b abt 1894 they hopefully married just before :) :)

 So why cant i find the marriage ???

       Sue
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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #146 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 22:57 GMT (UK) »


 Im going round in circles so calling it a night :)

 Will try with fresh eyes in morn ;D ;D

    Nite :)
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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #147 on: Thursday 01 January 09 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello Lesanne,

Cut/Copy & Paste
Re your concerns about not being able to cut/copy and paste.
This discussion is currently on the Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests board - though the thread departed from the original 1861 census lookup request some years back. 
I was under the impression that the facility to cut and paste had been disabled on all "Lookup Request" threads for copyright reasons.  But I've had no problem in this post using Ctrl-C followed by Ctrl-V.  Perhaps it is just 'right click' which is disabled?  Perhaps the Board Moderator would advise?

Where to now?
I am a newcomer to this particular puzzle and I am finding it very hard to come to grips with it.

I've read this (Buckinghamshire lookup) thread and the (currently locked) thread in the Common Room.

For my own benefit, I've tried to sort out what are proven facts working back from you through your Grandfather (Gf COX) to his ancestors, what is likely but not (yet) proven, and what is speculative.

I hope you'll bear with me while I start again from scratch and go One Step At A Time trying to understand what proof there is for each step into the past.

Sorry to be such a pain but as you well know it's best to try to confirm the most recent generations before moving on to earlier generations just in case they might turn out not to be yours ...

In the (currently locked) Common Room thread, you say:
Quote from: Lesanne

Marriage cert of  Frederick William (jnr)26yrs to Florence Levitt.28yrs (wid).
 22 November 1919. M’head Berks.
Residence at time .. 16, Cordwallis Street.
Wits. Daniel Weston (?Brides uncle?) Margaret Cox (grooms mother?)

                 This marriage is the only certain fact I have.
Just for completeness, I note from FreeBMD and other threads that Florence Louisa LEVITT was nee WESTON. It seems that she married John Blackburn LEVITT in 1915, they possibly had children, and JB LEVITT died in 1918 in WW1.

Perhaps you might transcribe the full marriage certificate of Frederick & Florence?  Including the occupation of Frederick William COX, and the name and occupation of his father?

Do you have Gf COX's birth certificate? Does it have Ggf Frederick William COX & Florence (WESTON) LEVITT as his parents?  Occupation of Ggf COX?

Do you have the death certificate of Ggf COX?  Age?

You say:
Quote from: Lesanne

I have a birth cert of a Frederick William Cox.  9 November 1893. North Town. M’head Berks.
Father.Frederick Cox. Cabman.. Mother. Margaret Cox formerly Howe.
Address? Informant?
Certainly looks likely for Ggf COX - but no proof.

You have what seems to be the above family in the 1901 census.
RG13 / 1158 / 105 / 34
30 Oldfield Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire
Frederick Cox head age 30 b Ewell, Surrey, occ cab driver
Margaret wife age 36 b Glamorganshire, occ housewife
Frederick William son age 7 b Maidenhead
Ralph Percy son age 5 b Maidenhead
This looks very likely to be Gggf COX and his son Ggf COX - but no proof.

Did Gf COX know his grandparents?  Does he have any particular memories of them?  Did he believe that his Ggm's maiden name was HOWE, and if so why?  Does he remember any uncles, aunts, cousins etc (e.g. an Uncle Ralph??) which might provide leads and help prove that you have the right family?  Does he remember any HOWE relatives?
Do you or your parents have any relevant relatives whom you could trace backwards and possibly find some leads?

You've said re Gf COX:
Quote from: Lesanne
He also has a watercolour picture of a soldier wearing a bearskin, big furry hat?? and says the soldier is a lieut col retired. He believes that soldier to be his dad.
Perhaps you could scan that and the army experts could make suggestions?  Though there is, I think, no proof (yet) that the picture is of a relative.
Your thread at:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,54029.0.html
has some interesting material re buttons, medals, ribbons etc which Gf COX believes to be his father's.  Could you scan these?  Have you followed these up?  I think you said you had his service history from the number on one of these artefacts.  Could you provide the details?

I think I recall that somewhere it was mentioned that 16 Cordwallis St (Ggf's residence at the time of his marriage) had some connexions with other COXs??  Could you remind of us of these?

Well, as I said, I'm sorry to be such a pain but it really would be good to be able to confirm that Frederick William COX b 1893 in Maidenhead IS your Ggf as the very first step!

Very best of luck,

JAP
PS:  If the Common Room thread is activated, perhaps a Mod could move this post to it?


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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #148 on: Thursday 01 January 09 05:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lesanne,

Here is a list of some of your other relevant (and possibly/probably relevant) threads!

I don't think I would have started this list had I realized how many threads there are!

The puzzle has been under way for several years and a fantastic amount of information has been found by some wonderful RootsChatters who are still eagerly helping - it would certainly be great if, step by step, you could now go backwards proving (or disproving) each generation before proceeding back to the preceding generation ...  Perhaps some fresh eyes might help - though I doubt it  :D

Best of luck,

JAP

The latest thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,350121.0.html
Not for the faint hearted.... COX & HOWE redesigned topic... (The Common Room Board - currently locked)

Other threads (some are currently active)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50970.0.html
Frederick and Margaret COX - Maidenhead. When & Where? (Berkshire Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50992.0.html
1871/91 look up. please. for COX family. (Census Lookup and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51132.0.html
1851 - FROME - COX. Census lookup please.  (Somerset Completed Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51166.0.html
Um..Perhaps 1871/ 81 Lookup for burial. - COX. (Somerset Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51240.msg203970.html#msg203970
Ah- ha!! How about 1891 census. Cox. (Somerset Completed Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51491.0.html
1891 lookup please. COX, Frederick William.(Census Lookup and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51645
Lookup please. 1871 Camberwell Surrey. COX (Census Lookups and Resource Requests. Completed Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51687.0.html
Cox~With OR without Cripplegate in St Giles, Camberwell? (Surrey Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,53188.0.html
1851 census for West Hanningfield./ Stock. COX family.(Essex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,54029.0.html
A Big Furry Hat = Soldier /or Guard? (Armed Forces Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,55682.0.html
1891 Look up Please. Cookham. ~COX family. (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,55571.0.html
Looking for Robert William COX (Berkshire Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58304.0.html
'61 ~ '71 Lookup please for Stock/W.Hanningfield (Essex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58521.0.html
1891 Look up Please ~COX~  (Census Lookup and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58814.0.html
Going Crazy or Gone! ~ COX again~Fred 1891 Please. (Census Lookups and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,61850.0.html
1901 lookups please - Cox (2 requests!) (Essex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,69580.0.html
Parish Records~COX and WRIGHT~ West Hanningfield c1770. (Essex Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,104962.0.html
1891~Lookup please~ COX~ Maidenhead (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,110787.0.html
1871/91 Lookup please ~ Margaret HOWE~ Cardiff  (Glamorganshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,116123.0.html
1901 London Whitechapel ~ Howe/Cox Lookup Please. (London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,121341.0.html
1891 William Cocks ~ Cookham Berks ~ Lookup needed please. (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,121760.0.html
1901 Lookup please.~ Frederick Cox~ Maidenhead. (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,136968.0.html
Charles COX - 1841 Lookup Please - Middx (London & Middlesex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,135977.0.htm
Trying to find Frederick Cox b Ewell 1870. (Armed Forces Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142961.0.html
1891-?- Why O Why is he missing? Abroad? War? Jail? (The Common Room Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,174236.0.html
William Cox s/o William Cox ~ Surrey (Surrey Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,346641
COX ~ Stock & Hanningfield's (Essex Board)

And finally the latest thread (entered at the top of this list) on the Common Room - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,350121.0.html

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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #149 on: Thursday 01 January 09 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Marking the post as I may have a Cocks contact,
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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #150 on: Thursday 01 January 09 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jap i'm sure Lesanne will appreciate your help
Happy new year
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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #151 on: Friday 02 January 09 10:42 GMT (UK) »
 :D My goodness..Thank you so much for that list JAP   :-*
I have not long long found it, as my email notification isn't working.

I shall go through them and see what was found.
 Thanks again.

Lesanne.
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
« Reply #152 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Lesanne,

I wonder if you have seen this website:

http://www.worley.org.uk

Search for Cox..........

May be worth contacting to find out where the information came from and how much documentary proof there is.  ;)

(Sorry this is not really related to this thread, but one of the umpteen others, but this is the "current" one so I'll add it here.
Found a Maidenhead directory today - can't remember the exact date, possibly 1930s? - there were three by the name of Frederick William Cox living in Maidenhead, let alone any of the others. )

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