Mingay, Sandall, Franklin & variants, Reepham 18th-19 thC

[scruth]

Dear All,

This is a part of my periodic trawl to see if anyone can recognise anything. 

I'm searching for the family of Elizabeth Mingay-Sandall (c.1836 Reepham, Norfolk - 1916 Utica, NY).  She married in London (J.F.Peuss, 19 March 1861, St.George Bloomsbury), had two daughters them emigrated to the USA in 1865.  The two birth, the  marriage and the 1861 Census confirm the name Mingay-Sandall, and the fact that her father, William is a bricklayer.

US Family history associates the names Mingay, Sandall (with variants) and Frankland (with variants, including Franklin).  Elizabeth's father or uncle (Sandall) is apparently a postmaster who wrote letters for the parish, and the Franklands are in laws in-laws were a lay minister and school mistress in a small private school.  There  are family documents from c.1900, handwritten, but they merely confirm the trail that can be confirmed from the official records I've found.

Sarah Mingay-Sandall is a witness at Elizabeth Mingay-Sandall's wedding, but I haven't found much reference to her elsewhere (other than Sarah Mingay housemaid in London.  In 1901 there is a Sarah Sandall living with the Pummells in Reepham.  I've attached a conjectural tree, since I think that the William Mingay in Reepham may well be the father (since he is listed as a brick maker at one point), and the hyphenation is a genteel conceit that Sarah could have also used (there is also a William MIngat in Norwich, but I think he's the wrong one).   I've not found a Mingay-Sandall marriage in Norfolk (IGI, Genealogist etc).

Any connections out there ?


Regards

Simon

[EileenI]

Hi Simon,

Reepham Parish records Births

William Mingay base born 29/12/1793 bap 30/12/1793 son of Elizabeth Sandle.

Mary born 16/11/1799 bap 17/11/1799 daughter of Richard and Elizabeth (Tuddenham) Frankland.

Reepham Marriage

26/10/1790 Richard Frankland and Elizabeth Tuddenham

Witness - Francis St John Hunt, W Symonds

21/11/1828  William Sendall and Mary Frankland

Witness - Frances Grand, Brettingham Sendall, Henry Bishop.

Births

Elizabeth bap 14/11/1834 Daughter of William Sendall alias Mingay and Mary (Frankland)

Hope this helps

Regards Eileen

[EileenI]

Hi Simon,
Also in Reepham,

Births
10/03/1767  Richard son of Richard and Alice Franklin.

Marriages
24/02/1767 Richard Frankland and Alice Hudson.

Witness Charles Veyall and John Boulter.

Regards Eileen

[scruth]

Dear Eileen,

That's tremendous - it makes my hypothesis much more reaonable, and matches the anecdotes - now for the list of Norfolk postman .

Many, many thanks,

Simon

[scruth]

I've just realised that William is supposed to have a son who died aged 17, of measles, presumably in Reepham.

I've not found him on BMD, or in the GRO indices yet - any trace ?

Regards

Simon

[stephen7]

hi,
don't know if there is any connection, but i have a sarah mingay in my tree.she was born 11/02/1781 in dullingham, cambridge, daughter of gregory mingay, b10/02/1751. in westerly waterless and married to a sarah mead.
i know these arn't who you are looking for, but mingay isn't all that common, maybe there is a connection somewhere along the line.
steve

[EileenI]

Hi Simon,
Children of William and Mary sendall, Reepham Parish.
William bap 28/09/1829, death 18/03/1843 age 14

Mary bap 3/12/1831

Elizabeth bap 14/11/1834

Sarah 16/06/1838

Rebecca bap 12/06/1842

Regards Eileen

[MC]

I am also looking at a Philip Carver Smith who married a Lydia Mingay in 1798 Norwich - and they called their issue George Carver Smith and Mary Mingay Smith...

I must say I have never heard of the surname Mingay before, but Lydia was born in Norwich in 1771 to a Richard and Lydia Mingay so it was around the area for a time. I think I saw the name Mingay connected to an author on the Norwich website - so it appears they are still there.

I would love to know the origins of the name
regards MC