MOTT/MOTTE/MOTTS, All

[msv]

Fred,
Just had a quick look and

Francis (daughter) aged 18yrs  is on the 1851 census

2 George Place, Battersea - St. Mary - HO107 / 1577  page 3 ...............sorry haven't got any other ref's at the moment.

Sarah is also on this census  aged 8yrs...................on the 1861 census Sarah isn't mentioned but Louise is ages 19yrs...........presumeably she was called Sarah Louise or Louise Sarah   

1861 census - RG9 / 370   83 page 1    ( 34 Frances Street, Battersea )  same address as 1871 census


Stanley F Mott - married - Katherine
children:
Alice
Vanessa
Nigel  - married  - Jane

Reginald R Mott - married - Joan
children:
Geoffrey (b. abt 1952)
Stephen ( b. abt 1957)
Richard (b. abt 1967)

Joan Iris Mott (born Dec 15th 1920 - died May 29th 1971) - married Juan Riu (born 1901 - died 1969) married June 6th 1946 in New York USA

child:
Juan Riu (born 1952) Colombia, South America




mark

[mottman]

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the info so far.
Did Stanley F marry in England, or did he go to USA with Joan Iris?
The only Stanley F I have married a Roberts in 1938 March qtr  in Braintree - is this he?? If it is, then I cannot find the children you give for him, which is why I thought maybe he went with his sister.
Issue Alice, Vanessa & Nigel do not appear in the GRO as far as I can see?
Reginalds' issue details are:
Geoffrey P. 1952 December qtr 5g.463 Surrey NE
Stephen G. 1957 March qtr 5g.467 Surrey N
Richard Robert 1967 June qtr 5g.233 Surrey NW.
Mother was Joan Killick.
Fred

[jackie walker]

Hello Fred

How are you now, have you recovered from your accident, went to library this morning and found the marriage of William Mott

St Marys Cheadle May 27th 1838 William Mott age 20 to Mary Dorsett age 20 both of Edgeley, Williams father Joseph a pattern designer and Marys father John Dorsett so looks like the William baptised at Manchester Cathedral is this William, also while looking for something else found this don't know as yet if my Williams son but it had at same church in 1860 Andrew Mott age 21 (father William) to Ann Bailey age 20 (father Daniel) but had Andrew as living in Handforth and Ann in Edgeley Stockport.

Have you any records of a marriage of Florrie Mott born Stockport 1906.

also Elizabeth Ann Mott to William Jamieson I have 1902 but not on Cheshire bmd for some reason trying to find out which church

Regards

Jackie

[mottman]

Hi Jackie,
Thanks, Yes I am getting better. Still have some aches though.
Regarding your queries:-
William Mott & Mary Dorsett - I don't have this William on file, not if he has given his true age. The nearest I have is a William bapt December 1817 in Kings Bromley, which is quite a way away.
Again with Andrew Mott & Ann Bailey, no record of them either.
As for the Florrie you asked about, I can help you there.
' Florrie ' was born Florence (surprise, surprise!) 1906 June qtr 8a.29 Stockport. I have a marriage for a Florence S. to a Frank Holmes 1932 September qtr 8e.317 Haslingden - will that do ??
Lastly, Elizabeth Ann Mott & William Jamieson in 1902. There is an Elizabeth Ann marrying in 1902 December qtr 8a.134 Stockport
but at present don't know if it was to Wm Jamieson - probably was.
Fred

[jackie walker]

Hi Fred

Glad you are on the mend.

This William Mott is the direct line from John Mott my gran Edith's  father he married Susannah Rowlands, think this is the William Mott baptised at Manchester Cathedral in 1818 father Joseph and mother Mary, you mentioned them on the Cheshire look up thread I had.

Thank you for the other info.

Best wishes

Jackie

[mottman]

Jackie,
I've found another Elizabeth, this time it looks more promising!
Elizabeth Ann MOTT born 24 June 1885 Sept. qtr 8a 85 Stockport.
Daughter of John & Susannah ROWLANDS, and sister to:-
John William(1881);James(1882);Albert(1887);Edith(1893); and Alfred(1898).
1901 census "Aged 15 yrs. Cotton Card Room hand." Address -   4 Bk., Brook Street, Stockport.
How 'bout them apples !!! Or did you already have this??
I can confirm that the marriage I mentioned for Elizabeth Ann WAS to William Jamieson. I can also tell you that there was a William born 1914 June qtr 8a 85 Stockport, mmn Jamieson. So there is a double connection between the two families.

Fred

[mottman]

Hi again, Jackie!
Yup, me again. I've just done some checking, and can tell you the following.
That William Mott, b 1814, mmn Jamieson - he was the son of James MOTT and Mary Jane nee Jamieson. They were wed 1902 June qtr 8a.113, so I guess there are other issue between 1902 and 1914!
I assume that the James is in fact the James 1882, brother of Elizabeth Ann 1885, and there were two weddings in the family in 1902.
OK?
Fred

[jackie walker]

Hi Fred

Apples are on their way along with the grapes.

Here is one for you Mary J Jamieson married James Mott at St Thomas church, Stockport in 1902, parents I presume of William, there was also Ernest in 1911 still a big gap between marriage and first born.   James and Elizabeth Ann are of course brother and sister of my gran Edith, remember mum talking about cousins with surname Jamieson, yet to come forward enough.  I can not find where in Stockport Elizabeth Ann married.

John is the father of James, Elizabeth, Edith, John William, Albert and Alfred , James is the father of John and William is the father of James, then Joseph is the father of William.

Best wishes

Jackie

[mottman]

Jackie,
I hate to be logical or obvious, but if you want to find out where Elizabeth Jane married William Jamieson, should you not send for the marriage certificate? I gave you the Registration details in the previous message.
I'm wondering if you've seen it on page four ?
Fred