Irish immigrants to Wales, 1800s

[PatrickSullivan]

Can someone please tell me if all the Irish that came to Wales in the 1800s would have been registered somehow, perhpaps leaving Ireland, on the boat across or on arrival?

[Arranroots]

If only, Patrick!!

 

[PatrickSullivan]

So, I take it that there are no records of any kind of  the Irish leaving Cork and landing in one of the ports of South Wales during this time.  They have records of arrivals in the USA and Canada, so why not for us?

[Arranroots]

I can't explain why, it must not have been deemed necessary.

I read a report recently (that Christopher posted), stating that cattle came first and passengers were squeezed in after!

It all adds to the confusion that is researching Irish ancestors - I have 3 lots of my own and very little progress to report.

I wish you luck, though, and if we can be of any assistance, please shout

kind regards, Arranroots 

[Taidquest]

I can't explain why, it must not have been deemed necessary.
I read a report recently (that Christopher posted), stating that cattle came first and passengers were squeezed in after!It all adds to the confusion that is researching Irish ancestors - I have 3 lots of my own and very little progress to report.I wish you luck, though, and if we can be of any assistance, please shout
kind regards, Arranroots

Hi,I have just seen this post.I also have this problem only my rellies came from Wales to Dublin,the boats Christopher mentioned were actually cattle boats
and i'd say originally meant for that purpose .the whole of Ireland then was
ruled by Britain and so people traveling to England ,Scotland or Wales would be treated the same as someone traveling between Wales and England or Scotland to Wales,even today passports are not needed but a lot of people would have them for photo i.d. to collect airline tickets e.t.c. the Republic of Ireland became independent in 1922.
                                                                     regards.anne

[bernard_lewis]

R.T.Price's book 'Little Ireland' deals with the Irish in Victorian Swansea and includes a name listing for part of the period. What name(s) are you looking for? The book is available from the West Glamorgan Archive Office - I have a copy.

Bernard

[Peter Spencer]

My great-grandmother's family came from Cobh in County Cork, in those days it was called Queenstown. Her eldest child was born in Cobh in 1855, her second child and all subsequent children including my grandmother were all born in Cardiff. I would imagine that to travel from Ireland, then part of the United Kingdom, to anywhere else in the UK was just a matter of buying a ticket with no identity checks being carried out a bit like getting on a train or bus.

In the 18th century and in deed earlier if you were not directly descended from one of the Norman lords or possibly one of the Anglo-Saxon gentry you were a nobody to be treated as one of the herd along with the sheep and cattle. Even the speaking of your native language Welsh or Irish for example was banned by law.

I for one am proud of my Celtic roots.

Pete

[Tricia_2]

I, too, have Irish ancestors who migrated to Wales ~ indeed, I share some of them with Peter, above (Hi!).

I understand that Treforest was a particularly popular place for the Irish to settle ~ does anyone know, please, if there are any books on this?

[marysma]

  Hi all,

            my g,grandparents also came from Ireland to Wales.

I have recently visited their birthplace in Bandon,Co,Cork , and it

made me think how long it took them to get to Cardiff (where they settled).

There were no busses or trains in the 1850's,so the journey must have been quite grueling!

My family ended up in the Canton area,and if you look at the website,

Gathering the jewels--you will see a photograph of Halket Street,Canton.

This is where my both sets of Irish ancestors ended up living.

There has been a lot written about the Irish in Newtown,Cardiff,but I
believe there was quite a big community in Canton.

Anyone know of any books.

Cheers

MM