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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 February 06 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Martha Hickman-if she is Martha Byron/Bryan/Adams was born 1848/9

I forgot to say-Walter Adams wasn't with them in 1881,so even if he isn't my Walter Byron he was still Francis's half/step brother and missing!!!!  Quite a coincidence that they are both missing!?

I found a couple of Walter Adams born in Dudley,one was born 1876 and he was in an orphanage in Islington.

George 'Bryan' was born in Middlesex!!!
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 February 06 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Didn't I find Francis with them in 1881 in Salford? But no Walter.
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 February 06 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Yes!!!
That's why I wasn't that sure about my Francis being his brother theory at first,and I left it for a few months,but a few weeks ago,I decided to see where Martha and Thomas had got to in 1891 and I nearly fell off my chair when they had aquired a son called Walter,of the right age !!! They also aquired a 19 year old son called Thomas in 1901!!! Their birthplaces are all mixed up,one census some kids are born Salford,the next Dudley.I think the enumerator did too many Ditto's! But Of course checking on the indexes there are people of the same name born in Dudley and Salford in the same year!
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 February 06 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Andrea, I just took this up again- thinking I'd have a scout round for Charles ther mysterious dad.
In looking at deaths I find:
Francis Charles Byron 1896 0 yrs Salford - do you have this death - obviously somewhere in the family.
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello Andrea,

Of course excluding something is often as important as finding something, just to clear the field of possibilities.

So, this should help, with regard to the above family that I suggested.

1871

RG 10/ Piece 3104/Folio 29

Civil parish: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St. Martin

transcribed as Byroner

Head: William Byron (?) (crossed out and then clearly written above as Bynner)
Wife: Annie
daughter: Maria 2
daughter: Catherine 9 months

Armed with this new information, I then found their children registered as born in Birmingham under the name of:

Bynner

Catherine Sep 1870
William Henry Dec 1872
Annie Theresa Jun 1875
George Sidney Dec 1880

except for Walter:

Bynnes

Walter John Sep 1878

MARRIAGE: Bynner Walter John in Jun 1903 in Kings Norton.

So, I think that you can now remove this family from your "folder of possibilities" as it were and safely chuck them in the dustbin.

So, that's good news, I think.

It certainly whittles the choices down.

Hope it helps you.

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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 08:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello again:

FREE WEST MIDLANDS BMD: (similar to Free Lancashire BMD)

Confirmation of marriage:

1870
 
ADAMS Thomas A and LLOYD Mary A married at St. James, Dudley

Registers at Dudley

Ref: 202/005/375
(If it would help to unravel the plot, perhaps some kind soul could check this marriage for you in the St. James Parish Records of a library.)

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You may be able to track down some of your other mystery marriages like this.
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 13:03 GMT (UK) »
I think I've just found Walter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I looked on ancestry for Martha Hickman's mum in 1881,and she was with one of her other daughters,who had a nephew called.........Walter Hickman age 6!!!
So,very possible? ;D
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 13:05 GMT (UK) »
That sounds very likely  - hope so but why Byron?? Perhaps he will be named as the father on the certificate?
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Re: Help Finding Walter Byron
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Well Andrea,

It certainly sounds too good to be true.

From the West Midlands Free BMD for Dudley, there are plenty of Hickmans, and 2 named Walter, 1874 and 1876.

This must be the most complicated trail ever if your theory is correct- a male with a different family name on every Census!!

There's still a lot of unraveling to do!!

The key may lie in the 1861/1871 Census for the Hickman family. You, may find Walter's mother.

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