The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

This looks like his birth  ,

BROOMFIELD Walter James W
Jun Q 1880 v.2b p.686 Lymington

Daisy

[B.E.]

Daisy,
Thanks for that - I agree with you. I now discover that the Walter Broomfield living at Dunsford/Sandy Down (though not at Dunsford Farm itself) in 1881 was listed as "Walter J" (no DOB, therefore I assume he was less than 1). I still don't know if they were one and the same, though I doubt it, since Boldre is Boldre and not Lymington. I can't find any other reference to your WJW Broomfield in 1881, though. Is he around in 1891 or 1901?
Cheers,
Brian

[Daisypetal]

Hello Brian,

Now I've re- read this long and interesting thread I would say he is the Walter you mention of 1881 and also the Walter in the 1901 census (from reply 2), this is because thanks, for once to the enumerator, the 1891 census gives lots of clear info.

1891 census RG12/899 f.57 p.10 Boldre Hampshire

Hill Cottage, Sandy Down

James BROOMFIELD  Head  M  38  Gardener domestic servt Sandy Down, Boldre Hants
Elizabeth Jane  "  "   Wife   M  38                         Bucklers Hard, Beaulieu Hants
Walter Jas Will  "  "    Son   S  11                         Sandy Down, Boldre Hants
Elsie Agnes Mary "  " Niece  S   7                         Burley Ringwood Hants

As to it being Boldre not Lymington, Lymington would be the registration district for the parish of Boldre.

Daiy

[B.E.]

Daisy,
Ah, excellent work. it does indeed look as though he's our alderman. Now, just to polish it off, what chance a marriage record for Walter Broomfield and Priscilla X sometime just prior to 1898?? Or a child for Priscilla less than 9 months later!!
Cheers,
Brian

[B.E.]

Daisy,
I've now tried tracking (with some assistance from my friends) Elizabeth Jane Snook through some earlier censuses. There's an Elizabeth C Snook listed on the Beaulieu/Buckler's Hard return in 1861 (#58), which matches the date and place of birth of 1891 (her father was Walter and her mother Jane, which may or may not be a coincidence). I don't know why she has a different middle name unless the enumerator screwed up. And in 1881, I can see her at with James and 11-month-old Walter sandwiched between Dunsford Farm and Hill Cottage, aged 24 (good!).

She's aged 43 in 1901 (close enough), but how the dickens was she 38 already in 1891? Another cock-up??
Cheers,
Brian

[Lesanne]

33 could look like 38.

[B.E.]

But not 88! Good point - I've learned to mistrust transcriptions and even the truth of the originals, but I hadn't thought of that one.

[B.E.]

Just found a marriage between Walter J W  Broomfield and Priscilla M Bright at Lymington in Dec quarter 1910. I can also see an 1881 family in Marylebone including John Bright (38) and Priscilla Bright (3). Maybe he chucked in his job as a police constable and moved to the seaside to be a publican instead? Alternatively, there's a John Jnr in the same family who would have been 24 in 1898. Father/daughter or brother/sister as joint licencees? Even though she definitely wasn't Mrs Broomfield at the time?

This would give her a distant link to the Snooks, but it doesn't look as though she was related to the Perkins.

What do you all think? Close enough for a fit?

[Little Nell]

Brian,

Can I remind you of this:

The only prominent male Broomfield in Lymington around that time is Walter Broomfield who becomes the borough water engineer by 1911.  But he is not married to Priscilla!

In 1901, Walter in Lymington is 25, born Harrow Middlesex, a plumber ( a much more likely occupation for the borough water engineer in later life) but married to Eva aged 26.

Unless Eva is Priscilla in disguise ( possible, since Priscilla refuses to show herself on any census), then you need to think again.

Also there is a Walter born Minstead c 1870, in 1901, a Horsekeeper living in Romsey, another Walter aged 24 born Minstead living in ?Copythorne, and another aged 20 b Beaulieu aged 20 living in Boldre.  Just 3 of the 9 Walter Broomfields in the 1901 census living in Hampshire.  Admittedly not all fit your age range but.....

Amongst others:

Walter George Broomfield m Eva Frances E Froud, Dec 1895 Lymington, 2b 1307
Walter James Broomfield m either Edith Eliza E Andrews or Annie Sophia Wiseman, Ringwood  Mar 1908 2b 1114
Walter J W Broomfield m Priscilla M Bright, Dec 1910 Lymington 2b 1431

Ooooh - interesting..........

Can't find any more at present - various sites on their busy night slow down.....

Nell