The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington

[bearkat]

George SNOOKE had a house and garden at Bewley Bank.  The New Forest Commissioners (1801) declared that this was encroached land from the forest. Witnesses Richard Primmer - 1/4 acre 18months ago
Henry Scanes - all taken in about 15 years and since thrown out.

[B.E.]

Possibly Mary's husband, deceased by 1817??

[bearkat]

Probably - but they didn't marry in Boldre.

[Elizabeth Revel]

Hi Brian,

Here is the other SNOOK family, also living in Beaulieu Rails.
Mary nee Harris formerley Fielder
with children
Zipporah FIELDER 1789,
Jane SNOOK 3 Jan 1793, Harriett Feb 1794, Frances Feb 1796, WIlliam Feb 1798, Betsey Jun 1803
Posted by: bearkat   

Here is some information about Beaulieu Rails. It is quite interesting.
I think that Betsey Snook, born June 1803, may be my 2xGtgrandmother

http://www.geodata.soton.ac.uk/newforest/public/resources/eastb.html

bearcat,

Would Zipporah have been the subject of the court case in 1801 because she was twelve and her mother could no longer afford to keep her?

Beth

[Little Nell]

And what about my original 1901 question? C'mon, Nell, I was relying on you!!

Oh, you were, were you. 

Well, start re-thinking your theories, Brian, as I've said before, you need to check the facts before you theorise too much and end up following the wrong lead.

Annie Snook, b cir 1886, is in Sholing in 1901, a nurse/servant, at the home of William H. Bell, a solicitor.  ref RG13/1063/126 p 32 10 Manor Road, Hill Brow.

Agnes (and recorded as Agnes Emma) is a boarder at the home of George W Cook, a soap agent, at Cranbury Road, Sholing. ref RG13/1063/93 p14

Edward G Perkins baptised 12 Feb 1830, Lymington, son of Mary Ann Perkins, spinster.

And search as I might, where on earth on this thread is a previous mention of the Wheatsheaf pub in Lymington except in your reply no 32 yesterday?  How did you get there?

And who the heck is Priscilla Perkins - where did she pop up from?   

Thoroughly confused.

Nell

[B.E.]

Nell,
Well, I flushed you out into the open at least!  You're right that I'm still doing a lot of speculation. The main problem I've got is that I'm trying to combine information from two living, but elderly, members of the family, whose only apparent thing in common is a firm conviction that the other is confused. There appears also to have been congenital disinformation within the family, such that parents have often been at best economical with the truth to their children as far as their own heritage is concerned. Obviously, I'm also struggling because I have no census data after 1901 and insufficient detail to get much out of the BMD index sets.

Thus, I have the following facts:

1. Widowed Walter Charles Snook (1861-1949) was at a hotel in Southampton on census night in 1901.
2. Two of his children were chez Broomfield in Boldre - it now looks as though the other two were at different addresses in Sholing (does "boarder" suggest some sort of fostering arrangement for the 8-year-old Aggie?).

As to the unsubstantiated family tittle-tattle...

Walter Charles Snook was a tenant farmer at Dunsford Farm, Boldre, "when his family were young". [If this is the case it must be between 1891 and 1901 - though I don't know how a yacht steward managed to turn his hand to farming.] At some point they moved back to Lymington, where Annie died (1899). They lived with a great aunt (?), Priscilla Broomfield, nee Perkins (?), landlady of the Wheatsheaf and husband of Alderman Broomfield, local bigwig, mason, etc. [There are plenty of old photos in the family of the Alderman, so I guess he must play a role somewhere!]

The biggest mystery is actually the identity of someone called "Uncle Len" of Warborne Farm Cottage, Boldre. One of my "convinced" sources says he must be William Henry George Snook (b. 1890, at Boldre in 1901 but apparently non-existent again until his death in 1962), while the other claims he is Leonard Tapp, who may have become part of the family through Walter Charles Snook's subsequent marriage(s) [which I can't tie down either]. They agree that he married Daisy and probably had 3 children, Robert, Edwin and Mary.

I appreciate that much of this is incredibly vague - I was simply hoping that you might be able to help me to establish some real facts and possibly open up some new directions...

Be gentle with me!
Cheers,
Brian

[Little Nell]

So I'm chasing shadows here, am I.

This Alderman Broomfield - what was his christian name and was he supposed to be alive in 1901?  From what you say his wife was Priscilla nee Perkins - was she supposed to be alive in 1901, because I cannot find a Broomfield in charge of the Wheatsheaf pub.  I can't find the pub either at the moment!  I cannot find Priscilla Broomfield anywhere in 1891 either.

But there is a Priscilla Broomfield who died in 1866 - she was a spinster.

I'm trying the Historical directories site but it seems to be on a go slow at the moment.  The online catalogue at Winchester is no help at present either - tried Broomfield, Warborne Farm, Leonard Tapp and got nowhere.

Time for lunch I think!

Nell

[B.E.]

Yup, lunch is definitely the best option.

I'm afraid the answer to all of your questions is "don't know", which ain't going to get us very far, is it?

I was hoping for a miracle! Just one bit of solidity somewhere I might have had something to go on, but, yes, at the moment, it's definitely shadowland...

The pity of it is, mother-in-law has loads of ancient photographs, but largely with no captions.

Thanks for your patience and perseverence.

[bearkat]

Are there any wills lurking in these shadows?