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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #108 on: Friday 12 October 07 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi folks

I only discovered Comyn's for myself yesterday so I've a bit of work to do to validate some of his claims.  I'm hoping he was correcting errors in the PRs but I do question a 12-years old child's ability to cause a boundary dispute?  Most other disputes I've encountered were either instigated or resolved by those of a grand age, but I'll reserve judgment until I've had a chance to study the case.

I love mysteries and knocking down brickwalls, sometimes in the process re-writing history, so although I'm undertaking voluntary research on the origins of the FIELDER Shipwrights of Rotherhithe, I'll keep you abreast of any SNOOK developments.

Beaulieu Burials PR extract:
No 391 06 Jul 1828 Mary SNOOK  66 of Lymington


 
May I assure you that Jude, (who is a family friend as well as a former tutor of mine) is very particular in his research and is not prone to wild speculation. If the Rev Comyn was accurate in what he wrote, Jude will have faithfully trancribed that, and backed it up with extensive research, pointing out, where appropriate any inconsistencies he has discovered. :)


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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #109 on: Friday 12 October 07 13:36 BST (UK) »
Yes, I've spoken with Jude too and have no doubts about the integrity of his research.

That said, I find the conjecture at least as enjoyable as the facts, so please don't let's allow the pursuit of accuracy to cramp our style completely! Some of my own conjecturing has proven to be way off-beam, but at the same time I've managed to put 2 and 2 together successfully on several occasions with a bit of out-of-the-box thinking.

Anyway, the marriage register would appear to show beyond all reasonable doubt that Mary Harris and Mary White were two completely different people.

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #110 on: Friday 12 October 07 14:11 BST (UK) »
May I assure you that Jude .... is very particular in his research .....
So am I but I would never deter a questioning attitude to any aspect of my research or a healthy debate in a friendly forum.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #111 on: Friday 12 October 07 22:55 BST (UK) »

dee-jay,

Is there a record of Edward Fielder's first marriage and whether there were any children from it?

Beth
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #112 on: Saturday 13 October 07 00:19 BST (UK) »
Beth

I've only recently embarked on this line of research and my predominant aim was to locate a link for Charles FIELDER born c 1796 into one of the Beaulieu families.  The Reverend Henry Comyn appears to have accomplished that:  now I need to find the provenance.

In the process I hope to sift out the FIELDER records of the Lymington/Boldre/Beaulieu area and anywhere else in Hampshire that this research takes me.  Sadly, for me, the Beaulieu Poor Law records that I would ordinarily consult are not deposited at HRO, where I could study them at my leisure, but there is a wealth of documents there that I intend to scrutinize because I get a 'buzz' out of new lines of research that stimulate my grey cells!

I freely share my findings but don't hold your breath, as I endeavour to make a secondary check for accuracy before reporting.  When I first embarked on this obsession some 20 years ago, an eminent Village Historian taught me a salutary lesson:  when I could not prove the associations he claimed and I asked him for his source, he confessed that he'd guessed!  That's why I prefer to reserve judgment and am not prepared to accept others' research unquestioningly.  No research is ever wasted:  before long I had contact with a direct descendant who benefited.   
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #113 on: Saturday 13 October 07 13:04 BST (UK) »

In the process I hope to sift out the FIELDER records of the Lymington/Boldre/Beaulieu area and anywhere else in Hampshire that this research takes me.  Sadly, for me, the Beaulieu Poor Law records that I would ordinarily consult are not deposited at HRO, where I could study them at my leisure, but there is a wealth of documents there that I intend to scrutinize because I get a 'buzz' out of new lines of research that stimulate my grey cells!


There are some Boldre poor law records.

The Hampshire CALM database

http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServeA/search.htm

has several references to the name FIELDER.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #114 on: Saturday 13 October 07 14:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks, bearkat, I had included those in my list of documents to be scrutinized but, ideally, I would have liked to set them beside those for Beaulieu.

HRO is my local Record Office, where I worked for a short time before the move to the custom-built premises.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #115 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 00:37 BST (UK) »
Boldre Marriage by Henry Comyn
by Banns 01 Apr 1816 No 117
George SNOOK (x) otp
Mary FIELDER (x) wid otp
Witnesses:  John FIELDER (sgd);  Harriet FIELDER (sgd).

It now seems likely all the issue listed by Comyn in Mary SNOOK's family in 1817 were FIELDERs.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #116 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 08:46 BST (UK) »
Ah, very good!

Though a bit later than I'd envisaged. Am I right that we now have a situation where George Snook married in 1816 (not an April Fool, I trust!) but had disappeared off the face of the Beaulieu Rails by the time of Comyn's survey in 1817? Do we have a death at Boldre for him in that period? He certainly stayed long enough for the children - even 18-year-old William - to change their name to "Snook"...

In other words, a sanity check: it was definitely 1816 and not 1810??