Joseph Marsh 1841 and 1851 census Wigan

[seasider]

I am looking for Joseph Marsh on the census [1841,51]Wigan.He was born in wigan in 1835 The only thing is, on his wedding cert, it gives his father as John Varley[deceased].I am trying to work out if he took the name of his unmarried mother[Marsh],or his mother married twice and he was adopted.Any help on this please.

[Tamwill]

Hi There,

Is this your Marsh Family in 1851

43 Broom Street, Ince, Wigan.

Ellen Marsh H Wid 48 Weaver Cotton,  Wigan
Jospeh Marsh son un 16 ass coal lab Wigan
Elizabeth Marsh dau un 14 cotton lab, Wigan
Ellen Marsh dau un 12 scholar, Wigan
Mary Rowbottam lodger wid 89, unemployed, Ormskirk


There are two Ellen Marsh's born in Wigan one in Jun 1838 the other Jun 1840 here are the BMD references for you

Ellen Marsh Jun 1838 Wigan Vol 21 page 757
or
Ellen Marsh Jun 1840 Wigan Vol 21 page 808

It might be worth trying to get one of these certificates stating Ellen as the mother and you'll have a better idea as to whether the mother had remarried or not.


Hope this bit helps any way

All the best

Tammy

[SheilaM]

Hi

Here's the 1841 for the family which may give an insight into your query.

HO107/522 Folio 7 - Broom St., Ince, Wigan

Ellen Marsh 35, Weaver
Mary 15, Weaver
Joseph 7
Elizabeth 5
Ellen 2
Mr Varley 35, Labourer
Ingram Varley 10

All born in county.

There is a big gap in the ages of Mary & Joseph.  Wonder if Mr Varley is the father of Joseph, Elizabeth & Ellen as they are all younger than his child.  Just a thought.

Hope this helps.

Sheila

[seasider]

Hi Tammy amnd Sheila
Thanks to you both for this interesting information.It must be the Joseph Marsh I am looking for with the name Varley being in the same house.Yes I just need to work it out with the certificates.
                          Thanks again
                           Pat