josiah glue - help please!!!

[lucretia666]

hi all,

i have found a new name in my tree.

josiah glew - should be glue
he was born in rogate sussex 20th feb 1828

his mother was hannah hersay and his father was joseph glue.

i have found josiah's birth but can find no other record of him, not even a death record. i believe his mother died abt 1840. Jospeh was sent to australia as a convict, but 22/2/1840 he was married to another woman... harriet staggs!
does anyone have any ideas as to what might have happened to josiah! 
i have tried ancestry and family search and i dont think that he went with joseph to nsw!

help please!!!!

regards
luc666

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there luc666

Apologies for not answering your query sooner, but have been exhibiting at a Model Railway Exhibition in Brighton for the past 4 days.

I have looked through the 1841 census for Rogate and have found the following:

HO107/ 110/ 05/ Sched 8/ Page 8/ Gally Grove, Rogate

GLUE Geoff, 22, Labourer
........  Mary, 2, Wife
........  George, 1

next door is

GLUE George Sen, 53, Labourer
........  Ann, 42, wife
........  Harriott, 19
........  Charles, 15

but, living in Galley Grove are four children as follows:

HO107/ 110/ 5/ Sched 13/ Page 18 - Galley Grove, Rogate .

SMITH Thos, 65, Labourer
GLUE John, 13
.......  James, 11
.......  Mary Ann, 9
.......  Edward, 6
.......  Thomason, 4 (female)
SMITH Elizabeth, 57

Everyone of the above was born in County of Sussex.

Whilst I realize that the names you have mentioned are not present; why would 5 young children be with smith family - could it be that their mother has died and their father has been transported?

What are your thoughts

Chris in 1066

 

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again

Found that marriage you mentioned

Marriage:
Location: Rogate, West Sussex,  Date: 27 Mar 1821:
Groom: Joseph GLUE, bachelor
Bride: Hannah HERSAY, spinster with consent of Parents.
Both of this parish, married by Banns.

As they married in 1821, could he have been transported after his marriage to Hannah ?

Chris in 1066

[lucretia666]

hi chris,

thanks for the info, in 1821 do you know what age you needed to be to get married? if it says that she had consent of parents would she have been pregnant then with another child??

another query to throw at you,
 i found out that a hannah hersay died in 1840. but then i found out that a hannah glew remarried... it wouldnt be on igi as hersay if she had married jospeh.. is that correct?? ( if she had died she would have been down as glew?!?!?) 

god this is confusing!
was there a sniff of any parents names on there chris??
sorry to ask so much of you!

thanks for the hard work put in already!

luc666

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there

Back in 1821 and even up to the 1930,s before the act was repealed; it was legal for a boy of 14 and a girl of 12 to marry.

Usually though, consent of parent or parents means they were under 21, more often than not they were 17 or 18.

No parents names were mentioned in any of the data I have published for you

another query to throw at you,
i found out that a hannah hersay died in 1840. but then i found out that a hannah glew remarried... it wouldnt be on igi as hersay if she had married jospeh.. is that correct?? ( if she had died she would have been down as glew?!?!?) 

Sorry, am having one of my thicker moments - dont really understand this question.

Chris in 1066

[juliefran]

I have Joseph Glue in my family tree, I have information from Australia.
Joseph came to Australia with his nephew George, came on the ship Hoogly in 1834.I am interested in any information from England if anyone can help.
Thanks

[Valda]

1841 census HO107 1102/3 folio 36 page 5
Midhurst Union Workhouse Easebourne  Sussex   
Josiah Glew 14  Sussex
Folio 37 page 6
Caroline Glew 11  Sussex

Deaths Mar 1848
Glew  Caroline     Midhurst  7 376

Regards

Valda

[juliefran]

Hi Valda,
Thank you for this, it has been a great help, and much appreciated.

Juliefran

[fertee]

Hello All,

I am an Australia connection to Joseph Glew (Glue) and Harriet Staggs. I have just join this site and would love to share the English history of th Glew (Glue) Family

I was told that the children from the first marriage in England after Joseph was sent to Australia with his nephew George as convicts were sent to a workhouse. I would love to know more!!

;o) Kim