1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester

[Tati]

Sorry - have added the age in the meantime. Just the same age age the 1881 Emma too. 

[wamwig]

Tanja

Thats strange because it definately says they are both widowed when married in 1877 and Arranroots found her marriage to Edward Halford in 1859 and found Edward and Emma in the 1861 census so this could be the Emma he married in 1877 but just not married at this time, though it doesnt answer his first marriage and wonder why ther is a gap in children between these two and the three post 1877?

Anthony

[Tati]

I'm afraid only one of the children's birth certs would help you out... if you can spot them 

The 1877 marriages seems to make sense with the children's age gap so indeed the 1871 Emma may have been a previous wife. I agree he could have made things easier for you 

[Arranroots]

There are certainly still more questions than answers here!

I was wondering what happened to Edward HALFORD, so I had a quick look, but can't see either a death or a census entry post 1861.  Neither is there any trace of Henry & Stephen, the children of that marriage.

Anyone else seen them?

 

[Tati]

Anyone else seen them?

Not me 

[wamwig]

Hi all

You know I think we are looking at two seperate wives called Emma that were also the same age. The wife in the 1861 census was born in Northampton All Saints, while the Emma in the 1881 census (ie the one previously married to Edward Halford) was born in Market Harboro. So somewhere there must be a record of Samuel or John Smiths wedding to an Emma probably in Northampton around 1865.

Regards

Anthony

[wamwig]

Hi Arranroots Tanja and anyone else following this

Thought I'd try Tanja's advice and try and find a birth record for one of the children on Ancestry, found a couple that could be John or Charles Smith, however there is a Charlotte A Smith, born Northampton Dec 1866 qtr, Vol 3b p69, which looks a very good bet so I shall order this one and see what it says.  In the meantime if anyone has any more ideas feel free to post

Regards

Anthony

[Arranroots]

Good plan, Anthony!

I have nearly worn out the SMITH button on my computer, LOL !! 

 

[wamwig]

Thanks Arranroots

I think its a good plan as well, and probably the only plan at the moment! but I am determined to get to the bottom of this as what seemed like a simple request in the beginning to find out about John Smith has actually turned out to be rather interesting. Its a good job they are all not this confusing and involved. 

Anthony