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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 07 March 06 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Arranroots

Its on the Common Room

Anthony

Consensus of opinion is that its Stephen Tooms, probably not that common a name. However freebmd only gives One Emma Tooms, born Northampton 1859, which would only make her 18 in 1877 and not 36?
Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 07 March 06 21:26 GMT (UK) »
I can find the family you mention in censuses: in 1851 Emma is 10!!

Her dad is a whitesmith, which would fit.

Can post details if that helps?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 07 March 06 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Here's a possible marriage that might interest you!

Emma Tooms

Edward HOLFORD

Mar 1859  Northampton

Vol 3b  Page 82

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 07 March 06 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Emma & Edward seem to have 2 sons in 1861 - Henry & Stephen.

RG9/939/36/9

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 07 March 06 22:16 GMT (UK) »
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Interesting, I would agree that looks like her previous marriage but those children would be in their 20's in the 1881 census so it still doesnt account for the 15 and 13 year olds, maybe they had some more or maybe they are Sam Smith's as both Charlotte and Charles are listed as Smiths.

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Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Arranroots

Thought struck me this morning, perhaps his father Samuel West Smith is on one of the censuses for Towcester, possibly born 1810-1820?, this may help to tie it up, or not. Just a thought.

Also looking at the bmd records on ancestry there is a Samuel John (Walnuff?) Smith born in Spalding Mar 1841 Vol xiv page 349, could this be the birth of the Peterborough death record?

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Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Can  you just remind me of the date of the marriage of SJWS & Emma, please?

I can't seem to see it anywhere!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Morning Arranroots

Marriage

Mar 1877 Northampton

Samuel John W SMITH

Emma HALFORD

Vol 3b/ Page 99

Dont have my records to hand at the moment for the later one (as John Samuel Smith) but I think it was either 1883 or 1884 in Northampton.

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Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Anthony, I was just trying to establish at what point he is likely to have left home.

Have had a quick look for SWS without luck so far, but will now try again.

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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