1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester

[Tati]

Can't see any other John or Samuel Smith born Towcester in previous census returns. The one born 1841 is a boarder in Northampton St Sepulchre in 1861 (Bootmaker).
Problem being: I am only relying on his birthplace here, so indeed we are just playing around while waiting for the certs to arrive  

Tanja       

[mgeneas]

Have you looked at Mary Taylor's Towcester website.
A must for anyone with ancestors in the area.
It is a long url, and I cannot paste it. But you will find it on rootsweb.
A google search on 'towcester rootsweb' will find it

Marilyn

[wamwig]

Marilyn

Thanks, Didn't know about that one. I've had a look but neither John Samuel or Samuel John seem to be there! I did note from FreeBMD that there was a John Smith born in Towcester in 1850 and a John Smith there died in 1851, a brother perhaps? or maybe I'm just thinking too far ahead!

Regards

Anthony

[wamwig]

Arranroots/Tanja

Looking at the 1881 census data there is a big gap between the two oldest children (15/13) and the other three (4/3/1) who are after the marriage identified in 1877. Pehaps he was married before this one as well or they may be her children from a previous relationship, think I've identified the birth record for the oldest, Charlotte, so I may look at that if the original theory does check out.

Regards

Anthony

[wamwig]

Have now ordered the two marriage certificates so I can see if there is any substance to the theory. Also I've found a death record for John Samuel W Smith in Hertford for 1904, which gives his age as 55, although I think I've seen a photograph of him in which I would have put him at least 70, so we shall see.

Anthony

[Arranroots]

Maybe it was just that he had a hard life?? 

Let us know when the certs arrive - could be a bit of a wait though...

kind regards, Arranroots 

[wamwig]

Just a quick update

Have just recived my grans birth certificate, Silvia Marriot Smith born 27/03/04. This gives the father as Samuel John West Smith of 3 Church Street Hertford and the mother as Kate Smith, formerly Marriot, although a quick check of Freebmd only gives only two Kate Marriots and two Catherine Marriots none of which look to be relevant!

Hopefully in a couple of weeks the marriage certs will arrive.

Anthony

[Arranroots]

That's excellent Anthony!

What occupation does it give for SJW?

Arranroots 

[wamwig]

Occupation - Shoemaker

Anthony