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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #153 on: Friday 07 April 06 12:32 BST (UK) »
Ok All

I've had a think about this and lets assume his 1877 wedding cert is correct and he was a widow. That would mean his first marriage would have to have been between the 1861 census, as he is listed as unm rather than wid, and the time Emma Halford got pregnant with Charlotte, ie between mid 1861 and the end of 1865. Furthermore his wife must have died in the same period.

If we also assume the wedding was in Northampton, as he was working there, freebmd lists only two possible John Smith matches. One, in jun qtr 1861, to either Eliza Frost or Harriet Howes (an Eliza Smith d sep 1863 qtr). The other, in jun 1863 qtr, to either Sarah Flavell or Louisa Hewitt (two Louisa Smiths d in the period, dec qtr 1864 & jun qtr 1865).

So my betting would be that my mans first marriage is one of these two John Smiths. Is that a reasonable deduction?

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Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #154 on: Friday 07 April 06 12:40 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, FreeBMD is far from complete for this time frame, so you could be right - or not  :P

The complete indexes are here to search:
marriages: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8965

deaths: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8966

Tanja  :)
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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #155 on: Friday 07 April 06 13:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tanja

I shall continue to search over the weekend  ;)

Anthony
Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #156 on: Friday 07 April 06 13:25 BST (UK) »
Have fun  :P  ;D
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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #157 on: Friday 07 April 06 13:32 BST (UK) »
Well. luckily its only less than four years, so it shouldnt be that difficult should it, I mean just how many John Smiths would have got married at that time anyway!  ;D

Oh no  :o
Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #158 on: Friday 07 April 06 18:43 BST (UK) »
OK here is the other birth certificate

Born 7th June 1841 at 5 am at Towcester a boy Samuel John, father John West (a draper), mother Frances Smith who signed it with an x.

So who is John West?

Is there a John West in the 1841 or 1851 census who could fit the bill?

Anthony
Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #159 on: Friday 07 April 06 18:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

Think I found him

1851, 79 High St, John West, aged 39, a draper

1841, 119 High Street, aged 29, a draper

Yes  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anthony
Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield

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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #160 on: Friday 07 April 06 18:59 BST (UK) »
Champagne !!  8)  8)  8)
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Re: 1851/61/71 - Smith - Towcester
« Reply #161 on: Friday 07 April 06 19:16 BST (UK) »
Well actually I'd already opened a bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon, better not drink it all though I still have to find his first and third marriages, but at last a bit of success. :D

Anthony
Hertfordshire: Parker, Lovick, Smith, Slade, Chapman, Winters, Webb, George, Mapleton, Craft, Tottingham
London: Slade, Maloney, Oldfield
Norfolk: Lovick, Woor, Thurston, Twiddy, Osborn, Crisp
Suffolk: Lovick
Northants: Smith, West, Marriott
Cork: Maloney
Yorkshire: Oldfield