EDLINS in Leics.

[behindthefrogs]

Thomas Edlin's family now looks like this:

Thomas Edlin bapt 3 Sep 1815 Croxton Kerial.  He married Jane Gray 9 Jan 1837 Hose (she was born in Hose in 1819). In 1881 he was a shepherd and they were living in Turnpike Street Croxton Kerrial with William Odlin age 13 their grandson.  In 1891 they are living at 21 Turnpike Street when he is an Agricultural Labourer and she is a monthly nurse. Jane died in Q4 1899 and in 1901 Thomas is living on parish relief.  He died in Q4 1906.

   Mary Jane Edlin bapt 1 Mar 1840 Croxton Kerial.  She married John Burnham Q4 1862
   George Edlin bapt 7 May 1843 Croxton Kerial
   Elizabeth Edlin bapt 4 Oct 1846 Croxton Kerial.  She married William Odlin Q3 1868
   Ann Eliza Edlin bapt 28 Oct 1855 Croxton Kerial   She married Charles Parks Q1 1879

In her marriage details Ann Eliza drops the "g" from Edling which was in the IGI.

David

[behindthefrogs]

Returning to the Hillam story, the following is totally unconfirmed as these are just IGI extracts but I think the HILLAM family looks as follows:

William Hillam married Sarah Lawrence, Buckminster Leic 4 Dec 1809 Children:

Mary Ann born 15 Oct 1810 bapt 21 Oct 1810 mar Thomas Smith 12 Apr 1831
Elizabeth bapt 1 Aug 1813 mar David Dixon 22 Jul 1839
Priscilla bapt 1 Dec 1816 mar John Chambers 23 Nov 1843
William born 1821 mar Mary EDLIN 30 May 1843
John bapt 30 Jun 1822
Sarah bapt 28 Mar 1824 mar Thomas Bunney EDLIN 5 Feb 1852

William and Mary had the following children:

Harriett Anne bapt 12 May 1844
Priscilla bapt 25 Apr 1847mar William Wilkinson 21 Dec 1869
Paul Cornelius bapt 14 Mar 1850
Caroline Louisa bapt 22 Mar 1857

All the above were at Croxton Kerrial   We thus have marriages between Hillam and Edlin brothers and sisters

[midmum]

Hello David,

Yes I think you are right.

Can I ask if anyone has parents for Martha Todd who married John Edlin in1740? I have a possibility of a Martha Todd bap 3 Mar 1712 d. of Joseph, at Denton. Anyone confirm or refute this please? If this is correct the registers also show a John Todd bap 6 Jul 1707 son of Joseph at Denton.

Glad you are having a nice weather Annette, we still have rain, north easterly winds and a max temp of 9c, bet you're jealous?

Heather

[Missprim]

Hi everyone,

A quick look through Denton register shows the following family:

Marriage
1695 Joseph TODD and Mary OATES  Novem 30

Baptisms
1699 Dorothy daughter of Jos: TODD March 3
1703 Mary daughter of Joseph TODD Aprill 4
1705 Hannah daughter of Joseph TODD Februar: 3
1707 John son of Joseph TODD  July 6
1711 Martha daughter of Joseph TODD March 1


The dates are as in the register with the beginning of the year being 25th March.  Also looked to 1720 for burials but couldn't see any.  However the micro fiche is difficult to read in places and this was a quick search.

[behindthefrogs]

Any of you who have surfed the net looking for Edlins will have fallen over and probably cursed Herbert Edlin who wrote books about Forestry. 

He was Herbert Leeson Edlin MBE, BSc Edinburgh, MSc Oxford, grandson of Ebenezer Edlin the brother of Thomas Bunney Edlin. His obituary was published in the Times on 31 December 1976.

One more Edlin of note.

David 

[Missprim]

Thank you for that, behindthefrogs.  I have 'fallen over' Herbert's name several times in library catalogues as well as on the net and wondered if he was a member of the family.  He seems to have been a fairly prolific writer of books on his subject.

Now can I ask for a bit of help with the Lincolnshire branch of the family?  I have two lines which I think should coalesce at some point the trouble it that I can't decided where that point is!

The two lines are as follows:

John EDLIN = Margaret : Married c1601
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Robert EDLIN (1614-1672) = Anne WILSON (?-1686) : Married 1641 Barrowby
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Robert EDLIN (1647-?) = Elizabeth ALLETT : Married 1676 Stoke Rochford
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Robert EDLIN (1677-1742) = Ann WYLS (?-1739) : Married 1701 Grantham
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John EDLIN (1707-1760) = Martha TODD (1703-1768) : Married 1740 Denton
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Robert EDLIN (1740-1794) = Sarah HUTCHIN (?-1807) : Married 1768 Denton
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Robert EDLIN (1769-1850) = Mary BACKLER : Married 1793 Croxton Kerrial


This you will recognize as the line coming from Leicestershire into Lincolnshire going back through time.  The other line is mine.

Robert EDLIN
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John EDLIN (1696-1760) = Ann SCOFFIELD (?-1721) : Married 1720 Denton
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John EDLIN (1721-1794) = Jane KIRK : Married 1747 Little Ponton
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Bartholomew EDLIN (1750-1820) = Elizabeth DOUBLEDAY (1752-1813) : Married 1774 Great Gonerby

(I've deliberately cut this one a bit short because there is a first cousin marriage between two of the grandchildren of Bartholomew and Elizabeth.)  I think John's father Robert has to be one of the Roberts near the top of the other line but which one?  Is it possible that Robert bap 1677 was married to someone before he married Ann WYLS?  Could Robert bap 1647 and Elizabeth ALLETT had a child 20 years after their marriage?  Perhaps you would like to ponder this problem and let me know what you all think.

[behindthefrogs]

Thoughts on the link.

Robert 1647.

How old was Elizabeth Allett?  She would seem to be around 50!
When did she die?
Did he marry again
Name John is OK because not eldest son

Robert 1677

Why was he called John if he was the eldest son?
As you say you need an earlier marriage

Other thoughts
Was he born out of wedlock to Miss XXXX and actually called John Edlin XXXX and later adopted the surname Edlin.
Did Anne Wyles have a son John before her marriage?
You have no birth dates for Jane and Susan.  Could one of them have had a son who was brought up by Robert?

[Missprim]

Hi,

I don't think John EDLIN (bp 1696) was illegitimate.  The entry in the baptism register refers to him as "John the son of Robert EDLIN" which implies that he was born to a married couple.

I do have dates of baptism for Jane and Susanna.  They were both baptized at Barrowby.  Jane on the 18 November 1642 and Susanna on the 20 July 1645 and both are given as "daughter of Robert EDLIN & Ann his wife".  (I wish the Denton incumbent had been as informative, I might have found things a bit easier to sort out.)

I can't find a burial for Elizabeth ALLETT.  I do have one which has no Christian name dated 30 September 1719.  I can't see the writing near the edge of the page but I don't think it is Elizabeth unless it is in a shortened form such as Elizth. or Eliza. 

The only baptism in the IGI for an Elizabeth ALLOTT which is within the kind of date frame I would expect and in Lincolnshire is at Alford and would make her 53 when John (1696) was born. I think I need to look at Stoke Rochford registers to see if she was baptized there.  It might also be an idea to look for possible wills in the ALLETT family. Can't do anything about it until after Easter now. 

[midmum]

Hello all, sorry for not replying earlier to my enquiry re the Todds but thankyou.
I have been to Belvoir Castle today but could not source the painting. The senior guide had not heard of it and confirmed that the Duke was not at the Battle of Waterloo but his younger brother was. I had taken a letter with me to leave in case of just such an eventuality however the staff could not accept it. They did give me pointers on how to approach the Duke with this enquiry which I shall do.
I decided to drive around the castle afterwards and was struck by the postion of all the villages, they are all situated around the castle and visible from there and also have fairly straight roads between them. We called in at Woolsthorpe cemetery as well and found some very interesting gravestones of the Dukes staff but no Edlins.
It has left me with more questions about how and why they settled there.
If anyone wishes me to look at anything in particular or take a specific photo let me know as I have some time to do so on Sunday.
Best wishes Heather