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Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« on: Thursday 09 February 06 18:07 GMT (UK) »
I don't seem to be getting anywhere with Daniel Kermode.  In summary, this is what I have.

b. 1837-1840 IOM

Daniel may have emigrated to Australia on the Blue Jacket 1860. Then moved on to NZ in 1863.

He was a gold mine manger and shareholder in 1866 and a John Kermode was also shown as a shareholder.  Even given the scarcity of Kermodes in NZ at the time I cannot find a relationship between the two.

He married Catherine McQuade in 1876, they had three children and he died in Auckland NZ 16 Sept 1916.

The marriage and death certificates do not record details of mother and father.  The death certificate shows IOM as birth place, age as 76 years and time in NZ as 50 years.

Any assistance appreciated.
McBeth (Letterkenny)
Paterson (Ayrshire)
Kermode (Isle of Man)
Bignell (Hampshire)
Moss (Writtle, Essex)
Elliss (Sancreed, Cornwall)

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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 22:18 BST (UK) »
The only Daniel Kermode born 1837 (+/- 10 years) on the 1851 Isle of Man census is:

HO107/2524  Fo 455 Pg 31

Laxey Hill, Laxey

Daniel Kermode - c1794  Head  - Joiner employing 2 men   
Eleanor Kermode - c1814 Wife
William Kermode - c1832 Son - Joiner app   
Daniel Kermode - c1837 Son - Errand boy
Hannah Kermode - c1844 Daughter    
James Kermode - c1846 Son       
Sarah Kermode - c1848 Daughter    
All born Lonan

From IGI  Batch C038081
Christening: Daniel Kermode  20 DEC 1836   Lonan, Isle Of Man, England
Parents: DANIEL KERMODE & ELLN KERMODE   

But this may be the Daniel Kermode who turns up in Lancashire in 1861 so playing with the name a bit another possible in 1851 (again this is the only Daniel +/- 10 yrs)

HO107/2524 Fo 96 Pg 3

Ballaburagh (?), Andreas
William Cormode - c1809 Head - Farmer of 42 Acres   
Jane Cormode - c1810 Wife
William Cormode - c1836 Son - Scholar
Daniel Cormode - c1838 Son - Scholar
John Cormode - c1842 Son - Scholar
Margret Cormode - c1845 Daughter
Catharine Cormode - c1850  Daughter        
Daniel Kelley - c1836 Farm Servant    
William Teare - c1839 Farm Servant
All born Andreas

None of this family seem to be anywhere in 1861!

From IGI  Batch C035751    
Christening:  Daniel Cormode 10 SEP 1837 Andreas, Isle Of Man, England
Parents: WILLIAM CORMODE  & JANE TEAR

Batch M035751
WM. CORMODE  married JANE TEAR 18 DEC 1830  Andreas, Isle Of Man, England

Manx Family Names
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v05p020.htm
KERMODE and CORMODE, contraaed from Mac Dermot, a shortened form of Mac Diarmid, 'Diarmaid's son.'

Something for you to think about I hope anyway! 

Best wishes

Sarah

Coventry - BROWN, COLLINGBOURNE, SPENCER
Lancashire - NICHOLAS, JACKSON, HARRISON
Isle of Man - SAYLE, COWLEY
Durham - ANDERSON, HINDSON, LEIGHTELL, ROBINSON, ROBSON, STEWART
Yorkshire - MILNES, FIRTH, HUDSON

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 22:42 BST (UK) »
A Daniel Cormode aged 43 and born the Isle of Man, is with his wife and son on the 1880 census in Delton Wisconsin.

Regards

Valda
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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 23:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sarah and Valda.

Valda would seem to eliminate Daniel Cormode.

Sarah, how comprehensive was the 1851 census?  I have had a look at the 1841 census, which may have been of lower quality,  and I can't seem to get a correlation with that Daniel.

Terry
McBeth (Letterkenny)
Paterson (Ayrshire)
Kermode (Isle of Man)
Bignell (Hampshire)
Moss (Writtle, Essex)
Elliss (Sancreed, Cornwall)


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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 July 06 08:12 BST (UK) »
This is the reference for the Daniel Kermode from the 1851 census from the 1841 census

HO107 1464/2 folio 26 page 25
Laxey Isle of Man Lonan  Isle of Man
Daniel Kermode 45 Isle of Man  Joiner
Ellen Kermode 25  Isle of Man 
Ann Kermode 15 Isle of Man
John Kermode 12 Isle of Man 
Wm Kermode 9  Isle of Man
Daniel Kermode 4  Isle of Man

I don't see how any indexer could have made much from the way the surname is written by the census enumerator. It does mean there are other possible Daniel Kermodes within a five year range of circa 1837 if you just search on Daniel and scroll to the ks which is how I found this Daniel indexed as Kennish. The 1851 census would eliminate some at least of the possibilities when you can see their surnames spelt again, hopefully much clearer.

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Valda
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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 July 06 19:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Valda, your lateral thinking has given me something of real value.

Much appreciated,


Terry

McBeth (Letterkenny)
Paterson (Ayrshire)
Kermode (Isle of Man)
Bignell (Hampshire)
Moss (Writtle, Essex)
Elliss (Sancreed, Cornwall)

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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 July 06 13:10 BST (UK) »
try Daniel s/o  Thomas Kermode + cath Kermode bapt Lon Lon 1840-10-25 - in 1841 census along with brothers John & William ;
father Thomas buried  Lonan  2 Apr 1847 - widow cath found as wife of Charles Fargher in Lonan in 1851 along with stepsons William + Daniel - there is no burial for a John of correct age in Lonan but he could be working elsewhere.
A second marriage is a well known driver to leave home early; Interesting as I can't find a marriage between Charles Fargher & Cath
any thing with a Manx Connection

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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 July 06 19:33 BST (UK) »
Excellent. 

This is the first match for a Daniel Kermode birth year I have heard of, assuming baptism was close to DOB in IOM. 

The second closest is that shown for Daniel at the Fargher household in 1851.

A couple of questions:

1.  The death certificate for Daniel shows father's occupation as 'Carpenter'.  Does that appear in any of the Thomas records (there is no fathers first name).

2.  Any more information on the baptism record?

3.  You show the baptism as Lon Lon is that Lonan Lonan?


Much appreciated,

Terry
McBeth (Letterkenny)
Paterson (Ayrshire)
Kermode (Isle of Man)
Bignell (Hampshire)
Moss (Writtle, Essex)
Elliss (Sancreed, Cornwall)

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Re: Kermode, Daniel b. 1837-1840 IOM, Miner AUST NZ
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 July 06 19:47 BST (UK) »
Lon = Lonan
I only have the 1841 census index (I generally use the Manx Museum microfilm but am off Island at present) and havn't transcribed Lonan - post a query on http://www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/bulletin/index.pl?noframes as someone thare will have immediate access to Lonan 1841 which should show father's 1841 occp - the step father was a boat builder if that helps .

Generally away from Douglas bapt was within a couple of days of birth but as 19th C developed the gap could widen

There might be additional info in the Lonan Parish register - an excellent official transcription is filmed and is on LDS microfilm (see www.manxnotebook.com/ under genealogy look for LDS film numbers  - given this 'silk purse' of a transcription it took real skill by LDS to turn it into the sow's ear of the Manx IGI though some parish registers (& I think Lonan was one) were not models of record keeping - official registration didn't start until 1877/8.
any thing with a Manx Connection