Who do you think you are (5)

[Hackstaple]

Trystan - it is considered to be an established fact that the long vowel sounds of Lancashire and Yorkshire were indeed a result of the noise in textile mills.
Others - Jane Horrocks is super lady but I agree there was a lot of idle speculation. Infant mortality was rife and creating a whole  story based on the presumed circumstances of death was a bit futile and an object lesson in bad family history research.
We have had billiard marker here several times - a bit of a wide boy who marked the games, arranged money games and kept the table are clean as well as holding bets and often "running book" on a match.  I am not sure there is anything very awful about that. When I was younger and a bit short of money I would work for a while as a bookmaker's clerk on Saturdays or even at evening greyhound races.

[JLo]

I'd have to agree with you all.  I liked Jane and her growing enthusiasm, but the whole program did not have me gripped and left me with too many 'but what about..' questions.  May be I would have found it more interesting if I had family from that area involved in the cotton mills.  
Did the programme ever find out why one branch of the family were rich and the other so poor?  I kind of lost the plot during that bit.  I liked Sam Horrocks and desperately wanted to look at all the 'stuff' in his box.

On a better note, I loved Family Ties  

[Arranroots]

I think I have found Mary

She appears to have married a John Thomas BOND (Haslingden Dec 1888) and in 1891 they are in Gt & Little Marsden where he is a grocer's assistant.  In 1901 they are in Nelson with their own business and employee - a brother in law called Frederick J !!  (He is misenumerated as BOND).  Obviously no great feud at that point then.

A 

[RJ_Paton]

Ernest is married to Amy in Rawtenstall (was he the one that went to Oz?  I had lost the plot by then!)

Yes Ernest was the one .... and a year after he had gone Amy (his wife) apparently joined him.

Thomas died of Scarlet Fever aged 3 ... it would seem that they did get all of the appropriate certificates but just did not include them in the show itself.

Theres more information in the book that accompanies the series.

[jakky]

Hi,

Because my mum worked in a Mill at Preston I was very interested in this one, left with lots of unanswered questions though,

 but a bit disappointed with  Jane Horrocks,   first for sleeping in her parents bed than calling her aunty a liar, bit of a harsh thing to say, considering the circumstances.

Family ties was very touching and had me in floods of tears, he obviously loved his granddad very much., what a line that would be to follow, especially the Great Granddad, what a fasinating figure he was,

Jakky.

[mikehicks]

I agree with a lot of comments on this - no certificates and excess speculation about familial traits ("she was feisty therefore i get it from her").

But i liked Jane Horrocks and she really got into it in a way that most of the others don't.

And yes, the programme never gives any tips on exactly how people can find certificates, census etc.

[jjq]

I was a little disappointed in the programme. Too many shots of her walking along, not enough"proof" either. Yes, she was enthusiastic, but something was missing from this one.

I recall they looked at the 1861 and 1881 census for the Cunliffes - but did I blink and miss the 1871 census?

I would have loved to have looked in Sam's box of family items - a genealogists dream come true?

Jan

[kerryb]

No I wondered about the 1871, they didn't mention it, presumably they couldn't find them or something!

Kerry

[Arranroots]

Their storyline was that Jane discovers she wasn't the only one to leave her native village...

Well actually the family were living in Stayley, Cheshire in 1871!

There was some confusion with names too - they kept changing them!