Who do you think you are (5)

[MaryA]

Yes, at the end when she was telling the family about the census entries, she did say after showing the 1881 census "the next one back" which I think should have been cut or corrected.

I also agree that there were too many loose ends left dangling but what I did like is that more sources were used, actually going to the Record Office and checking the microfilm rather than checking the index for the census online the easy way and using the library to check newspapers.

So it did in one way show that there is more work to do than sitting before the computer and pulling up the evidence.

All in all I enjoyed it.

Mary

[Headbanger Veron]

Maybe she'll be on here next..... it left so many interesting leads to follow up later, maybe that's why she didn't look for them on the programme, she'd have been on all night!

I'm glad I wasn't the only one saying "what about that death certificate then?" and wondering why she seemed not to have checked out the other censuses for all those missing siblings.

But whether or not the cotton famine was to blame for the death, it was interesting to put things into a historical context.  I didn't know about the cotton famine before, and now it's got me wondering whether it might have a bearing on an infant death in my family at about the same time and area, when all the other children in the family survived.

Veron

[Su]

Well actually the family were living in Stayley, Cheshire in 1871

I saw that too Arranroots and wondered why? Rawtenstall in 61 and back again 81. That wasn't brought up.

My Dad's Mother was a Cunliffe.  Her family were born Hindley Lancs.  I don't know if they were related to the Rawtenstall Cunliffe's or not.  However I received an email today from a friend who's Grt Grandfather was my Grt Grandfather's brother, to say that Sarah Cunliffe's photograph looked very much like her Grt Grandmother.  So we are investigating further.

Many of my Cunliffe's were cotton workers, and it really brought it home to me how hard they worked and how dangerous it was.  I didn't know about the cotton famine either, so now will go through my files to look for deaths around that time.

I like Jane Horrocks ... you can take the girl out of Lancashire, but you can't take the Lancashire out of the girl 

Su

[Bill749]

I enjoyed the progamme and, yes, I did wonder why they appeared not to have followed up the siblings.

I was particularly interested in Herbert because I discovered a cousin in Australia a few years ago who was born in Toowomba; her parents emigrated in 1913.  Her father was in the Army Reserves and was called back to his regiment in 1914; he was killed in Flanders in 1917.

Our families might well have known each other - I will have to ask her if the name rings any bells.

Regards, Bill

[dinkey]

Thought you might all like to see the following posting on the Rootsweb LANSGEN board.

As a person who was involved with the research for this programme and yes I did get my few minutes of fame with Jane in Rawtenstall Library I can say that the whole of the family history going back a lot further was presented to Jane including the census details and marriages etc but obviously the programme makers just chose which parts they wanted to use to make what they thought was a good television programme. Many details which I thought were interesting (including the 1891 census details which showed Sarah's elder brother as the Borough Rate Collector) were obviously cut from the programme and I can say that I wish I had the programmes budget as all certificates were purchased but they only used the information they wanted too.
I have found with this series of programmes that they do not go back very far but seem to concentrate on the social aspect more than the family History.
Never mind at least Jane has all the information and maybe sometime she will decide to follow it up a little more and find out the whole story of her families life in the Rossendale Valley.

[Mars Barr]

Why oh hy did she not obtain a death certificate for Thomas, I too wanted to know what he had died from, and if she was so curious and concerned, why on earth did she not get the certificate.
I found it a bit unsatisfying from that point, that is usually the first thing I want to have when I find an ancestor and their children, I want to know what happened to the children, I must have spent a small fortune on obtaining English BMDs, this is where Scotland is much more generous, BMDs can be downloaded for as little as 50p credit, to purchase an English one costs over £7 and yet its the Scots who are supposed to be mean!
To spend as little as £6 the minimum charge for the Scotspeople site, I can obtain quite a bit of information and certificates, now that is good value.

[trish251]

Not being able to watch the show in oz        Did they have any detail of how they found Ernest in Australia? Post 1901 is a difficult time to find immigration records here - although this may be Ernest and his wife

CUNLIFFE E 36 JUN 1910 ORMUZ B 803 002
CUNLIFFE ---- MRS 36 FEB 1911 OTRANTO B 819 009

being Mr E arriving Jun 1910 on the Ormuz (aged 36) and Mrs Cunliffe the following year on the Otranto.

But this is on the Victorian immigrants list - so how they knew they got to Toowomba      - perhaps through the death record - I hope they filled in the detailed forms and provided the 100 points of ID the Qld govt require before they will part with a certificate - not to mention refusing to communicate by email.

Here is Ernest in Toowoomba Cemetery
Cunliffe  Ernest    63  M 07/02/1937 08/02/1937  METH 3  9  41  Meth  P634

No sign of his wife

Trish

[Brian & Berni]

Did anyone wonder if Sarahs 2 younger brothers might have been her own illegitimate children?  Just a thought.

I thought that too such a big age gap between them

[kerryb]

The first thing I said was with an age gap like that there must have been other children!  It's rare to find a 20 year age gap between children at that time in history in my expereince.  Most women seemed to be baby factories from the start of their marriage or before to death or old age!!!

Kerry