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Re: newton family.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 06 May 18 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi AJ,

How did you find that James Gamon was the son of Isaac Newton? I had not realised there was another.

The first James (baptised 1783) was I believe born 12 December 1781 and went to sea in 1791, aged 10 years. Unless I'm muddled (possible), he was the father of John and Edward and drowned at sea off The Downs in 1855.

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 06 May 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Eliza

These come from St Leonard's parish records. I only use parish records as these are the most reliable source, although errors occur even in them.
The first James could well have been the father of John & Edward but I was raising the query that there were two James by different mothers, casting a degree of doubt as to who the father of John and Edward was. The James by Francis Gamon's wife may have gone by the name Gamon or by Newton - it depended on who brought him up, I imagine.
Looking at the records again, there was a James Gammon baptised in 1784 but his parents were William and Jane, not Francis' wife, the mother of the illegitimate James.

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 07 May 18 00:00 BST (UK) »
Hi AJ,

I am looking at the parish register images for St Leonard but cannot find the illegitimate birth you are referring to. The only one I can find on 28/3/1784 is for James Gamon (of William and Jane).

Am I missing something? Are you able to point me in the right direction eg) page number etc?

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 07 May 18 11:46 BST (UK) »
Hello, Eliza

Sorry, should have said. James baptism was at St George's during its first year of operation. St George's was opened as a chapel of ease for St Leonard's as Deal grew in size. It later became a separate church in its own right.

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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 08 May 18 00:51 BST (UK) »
Hi AJ,

Is that available online? I cannot find it. Can you give a link?

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 08 May 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Eliza,

I don't think it's available online. I bought the microfiche from Kent History Society and have typed it out so it's easier to read. I can give you any information if you need it.
There was a third church, St Andrew's which opened in the 1850's, I believe, and has some Newtons baptised in that decade. Again, I can supply any information you require.

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 08 May 18 20:43 BST (UK) »
Oh I see. Thanks AJ.

There's a CD I can borrow  I think from the local branch, so will have a look.

That birth sounds like it might have caused a bit of a ripple in the family. I wonder if the mother remained with her husband.

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